Hello, Am 08.07.20 um 09:24 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
> Michael, that's completely undisputed, but that's not the issue here. > > (Moreover, this was clearly not about the protection of individual data, > because the data is known to everyone. After all, the confidentiality of the > personal word is imho law formal not part of individual data.) > > > What was the issue? > I found out (because it was clear from the discussion) that D...f has been > appointed committer based on merit (and not technical necessity[1]). > > Patricia countered my answer by saying that it was the PMC's right (and > necessity) to speak about some things in a non-public way. > > I didn't demand that the PMC speak publicly about pertsonal decisions, but it > was clear that individual members of the PMC had publicly expressed their own > opinions. > It can be assumed that they have expressed exactly the same opinions in the > non-public discussion at the PMC. > > > And what did I dislike about Patricia's statement? > My _feeling_ was that Patricia overemphasized the PMC's right to non-public > discussion, probably because they think I deny that right. > > I assure you that I do not doubt this right at all. > > But at the same time this right is only a necessity and not our goal, because > our goal is openness wherever possible. > Is this difference unclear? > You want to discuss in public, whether a certain person became a committer and another certain person did not. How should that be discussed without talking about the individual situation of that persons? But there are very good reasons not to talk about individual circumstances in public without the explicit approval of the concerned person. And it is nearly impossible to discuss an individual situation in public in one case and not in other cases. So the only sensible policy is not to discuss in public whether a certain person became a committer and another certain person did not. You publish strong accusations not based on facts, but on conjectures. But even that approach will not force the members of the PMC to talk in public about things, which must not be discussed in public! We all know that you suspect the PMC, but that is not a new cognition. As a PMC member I can live with distrust and speculations. Jörg, afaik you are a committer, so why you act in that way in strange concerns? IMO this does not improve the image or the performance of our project. Kind regards Michael
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