> On Aug 19, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
> wrote:
> 
> Am 19.08.20 um 20:50 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Am 19.08.20 um 18:55 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>> On Aug 19, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 19.08.20 um 18:10 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2020, at 8:37 AM, Matthias Seidel 
>>>>>>> <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 19.08.20 um 01:18 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>>>> Do those ancient versions of OpenOffice handle redirection?
>>>>>>> Redirection will be done on the (web) server side.
>>>>>> Then we can do redirection within the httpd.conf for OpenOffice.org.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Infra holds that in puppet. I’ll look for it and link it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Until then we need to preserve the existing pages where OOo expects 
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> Let’s change that before migration.
>>>>> Where do you want to put these pages?
>>>> I would want to put them on ooo-updates if that would work.
>>> The update feed is broken for longer now...
>>> We still need to find a working solution.
>> Do we have a bug that describes how the update feed is broken?
> 
> One bug? ;-) This has been discussed so often and for so long I don't
> even know where to start...
> 
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127789
> 
> Most of the comments are pure speculation but:
> 
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127789#c39
> 
> is interesting. Although Pedro is wrong about the regression in code it
> shows that the update feeds located on openoffice.org can be reached.
> This might be due to the old web server we are using.
> The update feeds hosted in Apache SVN are not working for most of our users.
> 
> Andrea knows more about it but basically AOO (4.1.x) is not able to
> connect to the update feed via https due to outdated SSL components.
> (Changing the update URL to http works but is a dirty hack and has no
> effect on released versions)

I made some comments. Like Pedro I suspect a regression in the code.

Do you know where the update code is?

> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
> P.S.: Update feeds for extensions (hosted on SourceForge) are a separate
> problem.
> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> But no objections to put everything in a single place.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>   Matthias
>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Matthias
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Matthias Seidel 
>>>>>>>>>> <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but update feeds for OOo are still located at openoffice.org 
>>>>>>>>> (see the link). That's why I wrote "specific".
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> They MUST be kept until we find a better place and can redirect there.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Matthias
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Am 18.08.20 um 23:20 schrieb Dave Fisher (Confluence):
>>>>>>>>>> There's 1 new edit on this page
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> <page-icon.png>
>>>>>>>>>> Website Migrations
>>>>>>>>>> <avatar_31245e5a1b94c8bc00026894234e3162.png>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave Fisher edited this page
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Here's what changed:
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> openoffice.apache.org is a markdown site in the Apache CMS.
>>>>>>>>>> Needs redesign like new banner and change from left navigation.
>>>>>>>>>> Not complex.
>>>>>>>>>> Probably makes sense to migrate Migrate some of the developer 
>>>>>>>>>> resources on openoffice.org like Java docs, UNO etc to this site.
>>>>>>>>>> www.openoffice.org is our premier user / marketing site. It has 
>>>>>>>>>> complexities which can be handled it was moved as a port in December 
>>>>>>>>>> 2011 with minimal change.
>>>>>>>>>> Template uses SSI to handle consistent banner, top navigation, and 
>>>>>>>>>> translation of several elements.
>>>>>>>>>> 100 native language websites - some maintained and more not 
>>>>>>>>>> maintained. Some have unusual encoding.
>>>>>>>>>> Download pages have a unique and special structure.
>>>>>>>>>> The why pages are translated, but ...
>>>>>>>>>> All the legacy pages are in an original html that is reformatted by 
>>>>>>>>>> the CMS. These pages should be discarded or transformed during 
>>>>>>>>>> migration.
>>>>>>>>>> Not part of the ww site anymore Specific update feeds must be kept 
>>>>>>>>>> (see: 
>>>>>>>>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Update_Service#Available_Update_Feeds)
>>>>>>>>>> Suggested approach.
>>>>>>>>>> Design new site layout.
>>>>>>>>>> Create new layout from the design.
>>>>>>>>>> Identify rationale about what is
>>>>>>>>>> Dropped.
>>>>>>>>>> Rewritten manually.
>>>>>>>>>> (de)
>>>>>>>>>> from the de-pages the following sub pages should be taken over (and 
>>>>>>>>>> manually rewritten):
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/about-ooo/about-mailinglist.html 
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/probleme.html 
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/foren.html 
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/marketing/referenzkunden.html 
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/doc/index.html 
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/doc/faq/index.html 
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/dev/pre_submission_de.html 
>>>>>>>>>> in addition, there must be new local pages for marketing, e.g. for 
>>>>>>>>>> downloading German-language marketing material (press kit, flyers, 
>>>>>>>>>> ...) and for announcing local dates (fairs and other events)
>>>>>>>>>> Copied from the html.
>>>>>>>>>> Copied from the MediaWiki as mdtext.
>>>>>>>>>> Go to page history
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> View page
>>>>>>>>>> 
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