Hi Dave,

Am 19.08.20 um 22:11 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>
>> On Aug 19, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Am 19.08.20 um 20:50 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>> On Aug 19, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am 19.08.20 um 18:55 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Matthias Seidel 
>>>>>> <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 19.08.20 um 18:10 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2020, at 8:37 AM, Matthias Seidel 
>>>>>>>> <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 19.08.20 um 01:18 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>>>>> Do those ancient versions of OpenOffice handle redirection?
>>>>>>>> Redirection will be done on the (web) server side.
>>>>>>> Then we can do redirection within the httpd.conf for OpenOffice.org.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Infra holds that in puppet. I’ll look for it and link it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Until then we need to preserve the existing pages where OOo expects 
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>> Let’s change that before migration.
>>>>>> Where do you want to put these pages?
>>>>> I would want to put them on ooo-updates if that would work.
>>>> The update feed is broken for longer now...
>>>> We still need to find a working solution.
>>> Do we have a bug that describes how the update feed is broken?
>> One bug? ;-) This has been discussed so often and for so long I don't
>> even know where to start...
>>
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127789
>>
>> Most of the comments are pure speculation but:
>>
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127789#c39
>>
>> is interesting. Although Pedro is wrong about the regression in code it
>> shows that the update feeds located on openoffice.org can be reached.
>> This might be due to the old web server we are using.
>> The update feeds hosted in Apache SVN are not working for most of our users.
>>
>> Andrea knows more about it but basically AOO (4.1.x) is not able to
>> connect to the update feed via https due to outdated SSL components.
>> (Changing the update URL to http works but is a dirty hack and has no
>> effect on released versions)
> I made some comments. Like Pedro I suspect a regression in the code.

It stopped working about two years ago (for 4.x.x)
And it is working for 4.2.x and trunk with the same update feeds.

I am still not convinced... ;-)

>
> Do you know where the update code is?

Sorry, maybe some developer knows?

>
>> Regards,
>>
>>    Matthias
>>
>> P.S.: Update feeds for extensions (hosted on SourceForge) are a separate
>> problem.
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>> But no objections to put everything in a single place.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>   Matthias
>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Matthias
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Matthias Seidel 
>>>>>>>>>>> <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but update feeds for OOo are still located at openoffice.org 
>>>>>>>>>> (see the link). That's why I wrote "specific".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They MUST be kept until we find a better place and can redirect 
>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Matthias
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 18.08.20 um 23:20 schrieb Dave Fisher (Confluence):
>>>>>>>>>>> There's 1 new edit on this page
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <page-icon.png>
>>>>>>>>>>> Website Migrations
>>>>>>>>>>> <avatar_31245e5a1b94c8bc00026894234e3162.png>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Fisher edited this page
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here's what changed:
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> openoffice.apache.org is a markdown site in the Apache CMS.
>>>>>>>>>>> Needs redesign like new banner and change from left navigation.
>>>>>>>>>>> Not complex.
>>>>>>>>>>> Probably makes sense to migrate Migrate some of the developer 
>>>>>>>>>>> resources on openoffice.org like Java docs, UNO etc to this site.
>>>>>>>>>>> www.openoffice.org is our premier user / marketing site. It has 
>>>>>>>>>>> complexities which can be handled it was moved as a port in 
>>>>>>>>>>> December 2011 with minimal change.
>>>>>>>>>>> Template uses SSI to handle consistent banner, top navigation, and 
>>>>>>>>>>> translation of several elements.
>>>>>>>>>>> 100 native language websites - some maintained and more not 
>>>>>>>>>>> maintained. Some have unusual encoding.
>>>>>>>>>>> Download pages have a unique and special structure.
>>>>>>>>>>> The why pages are translated, but ...
>>>>>>>>>>> All the legacy pages are in an original html that is reformatted by 
>>>>>>>>>>> the CMS. These pages should be discarded or transformed during 
>>>>>>>>>>> migration.
>>>>>>>>>>> Not part of the ww site anymore Specific update feeds must be kept 
>>>>>>>>>>> (see: 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Update_Service#Available_Update_Feeds)
>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested approach.
>>>>>>>>>>> Design new site layout.
>>>>>>>>>>> Create new layout from the design.
>>>>>>>>>>> Identify rationale about what is
>>>>>>>>>>> Dropped.
>>>>>>>>>>> Rewritten manually.
>>>>>>>>>>> (de)
>>>>>>>>>>> from the de-pages the following sub pages should be taken over (and 
>>>>>>>>>>> manually rewritten):
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/about-ooo/about-mailinglist.html 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/probleme.html 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/foren.html 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/marketing/referenzkunden.html 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/doc/index.html 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/doc/faq/index.html 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/dev/pre_submission_de.html 
>>>>>>>>>>> in addition, there must be new local pages for marketing, e.g. for 
>>>>>>>>>>> downloading German-language marketing material (press kit, flyers, 
>>>>>>>>>>> ...) and for announcing local dates (fairs and other events)
>>>>>>>>>>> Copied from the html.
>>>>>>>>>>> Copied from the MediaWiki as mdtext.
>>>>>>>>>>> Go to page history
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> View page
>>>>>>>>>>>
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