> On Aug 19, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Am 19.08.20 um 22:11 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>
>>> On Aug 19, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 19.08.20 um 20:50 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>> On Aug 19, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>> <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 19.08.20 um 18:55 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>>> <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 19.08.20 um 18:10 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2020, at 8:37 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>>>>> <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 19.08.20 um 01:18 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>>>>>> Do those ancient versions of OpenOffice handle redirection?
>>>>>>>>> Redirection will be done on the (web) server side.
>>>>>>>> Then we can do redirection within the httpd.conf for OpenOffice.org.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Infra holds that in puppet. I’ll look for it and link it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Until then we need to preserve the existing pages where OOo expects
>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>> Let’s change that before migration.
>>>>>>> Where do you want to put these pages?
>>>>>> I would want to put them on ooo-updates if that would work.
>>>>> The update feed is broken for longer now...
>>>>> We still need to find a working solution.
>>>> Do we have a bug that describes how the update feed is broken?
>>> One bug? ;-) This has been discussed so often and for so long I don't
>>> even know where to start...
>>>
>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127789
>>>
>>> Most of the comments are pure speculation but:
>>>
>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127789#c39
>>>
>>> is interesting. Although Pedro is wrong about the regression in code it
>>> shows that the update feeds located on openoffice.org can be reached.
>>> This might be due to the old web server we are using.
>>> The update feeds hosted in Apache SVN are not working for most of our users.
>>>
>>> Andrea knows more about it but basically AOO (4.1.x) is not able to
>>> connect to the update feed via https due to outdated SSL components.
>>> (Changing the update URL to http works but is a dirty hack and has no
>>> effect on released versions)
>> I made some comments. Like Pedro I suspect a regression in the code.
>
> It stopped working about two years ago (for 4.x.x)
> And it is working for 4.2.x and trunk with the same update feeds.
>
> I am still not convinced... ;-)
The other thought is the version of openssl and/or curl used and which versions
got which upgrades.
>
>>
>> Do you know where the update code is?
>
> Sorry, maybe some developer knows?
Need to look at the history of
(1) openssl
(2) curl
(3) and the code that uses those.
Regards,
Dave
>
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>> P.S.: Update feeds for extensions (hosted on SourceForge) are a separate
>>> problem.
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>> But no objections to put everything in a single place.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthias
>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Matthias
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>>>>>>>> <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but update feeds for OOo are still located at openoffice.org
>>>>>>>>>>> (see the link). That's why I wrote "specific".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They MUST be kept until we find a better place and can redirect
>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Matthias
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 18.08.20 um 23:20 schrieb Dave Fisher (Confluence):
>>>>>>>>>>>> There's 1 new edit on this page
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <page-icon.png>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Website Migrations
>>>>>>>>>>>> <avatar_31245e5a1b94c8bc00026894234e3162.png>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Fisher edited this page
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's what changed:
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> openoffice.apache.org is a markdown site in the Apache CMS.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Needs redesign like new banner and change from left navigation.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not complex.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably makes sense to migrate Migrate some of the developer
>>>>>>>>>>>> resources on openoffice.org like Java docs, UNO etc to this site.
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.openoffice.org is our premier user / marketing site. It has
>>>>>>>>>>>> complexities which can be handled it was moved as a port in
>>>>>>>>>>>> December 2011 with minimal change.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Template uses SSI to handle consistent banner, top navigation, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> translation of several elements.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 native language websites - some maintained and more not
>>>>>>>>>>>> maintained. Some have unusual encoding.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Download pages have a unique and special structure.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The why pages are translated, but ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> All the legacy pages are in an original html that is reformatted
>>>>>>>>>>>> by the CMS. These pages should be discarded or transformed during
>>>>>>>>>>>> migration.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not part of the ww site anymore Specific update feeds must be kept
>>>>>>>>>>>> (see:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Update_Service#Available_Update_Feeds)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested approach.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Design new site layout.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Create new layout from the design.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Identify rationale about what is
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dropped.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rewritten manually.
>>>>>>>>>>>> (de)
>>>>>>>>>>>> from the de-pages the following sub pages should be taken over
>>>>>>>>>>>> (and manually rewritten):
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/about-ooo/about-mailinglist.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/probleme.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/foren.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/marketing/referenzkunden.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/doc/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/doc/faq/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/dev/pre_submission_de.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> in addition, there must be new local pages for marketing, e.g. for
>>>>>>>>>>>> downloading German-language marketing material (press kit, flyers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...) and for announcing local dates (fairs and other events)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Copied from the html.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Copied from the MediaWiki as mdtext.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to page history
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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