> -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 9:46 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO > > > On 08.12.20 09:14, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] > >> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 11:03 PM > >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO > >>> Maybe one more thing: Is the problem database even important? > >> We cannot build with Java 11 and up. Decisions have to be > made soon. > >> Strategy has to be setup. A Roadmap would be great > > Peter, I do not understand what that means in concrete terms. > > > > IF Java is a critical factor (I guess because of Oracle's > licensing policy) why is it less so for H2 or Derby than for HSQLDB? > > No, I meant that building OpenOffice with Java 11 and later > causes the > build to break on hsqldb. So we need to talk > > what we do. Current state is that we need to change the code > in order to > build on a later Java Version. That is what brought this > topic up. And > again I want to have a discussion on what we head out for. What is > needed. And I think this makes it a good time to collect all > opinions, > arguments and requirements.
Thank you for this declaration. The situation is therefore understandable to me. > > Actually we should rather choose a database that works > without Java(?) > > > > Also: IF the Java question is urgent, why is it only for > Base? Doesn't belong then on the agenda anymore? > > Where do I say it is urgent? I had understood "We cannot build with Java 11 and up." that way. > This takes time. It is a good time to start this now. yes, this is true > What is your opinion on Java? Not that I want to start a general Java > discussion, but you are right they are connected. As far as I know from Mathias Java is, in the long run, a problem because of the licensing policy of Oracle(*) and we have to find ways to free ourselves from this dependency. Since these are rather long-term considerations, I can't say if we have to consider this already now for a decision regarding Base. It would tend to make sense, but searching for a database without Java dependency might collide somewhat with the question of multiplatform capability. But please ... I am only answering your question here, I do not want to encourage you to expand the discussion. (*) if I understood it correctly, the problem is not technical in essence, but future Java versions should be subject to license fees, at least for business use (?) Jörg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
