Hi, Although I ranted before about the high barriers to entry in using the OSM data, I agree with Frederik on this one. With limited resources providing a good quality data query service isn't really a priority.
I've implemented support for XAPI in both Kosmos and Maperitive and it's a flaky service, but since it's free, I and all of the users of my software have to put up with it. On the other hand, if I were to provide a commercial service and start making money out of it, I would sure set up my own XAPI-like thing. Which I think many do, but for their own private/commercial purposes, so you don't get to hear about it. Maybe writing a nice letter to Steve C. at MS asking for some server infrastructure would help? ;) Regards, Igor On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Frederik Ramm <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > > On 12/15/10 19:54, Wyo wrote: > >> Just tell me, how many people, who don't get paid for the work, have set >> up their own XAPI server? A handful or a dozens, wordwide? Sorry forgive >> me my harsh words, yet the current procedure to set up an XAPI server is >> useless. For most interested people this is simply out of reach. >> > > There are many things I am interested in but which are out of reach for me. > I guess I'll either have to work on bringing them within reach, or I'll have > to live with them being out of reach. > > Sure it's a nice thing to be able to download a data set of all pizza > joints in Spain with one simple command, but time and money has to be > invested to make it possible - money to buy servers, time to install and > maintain servers, time to write and maintain the software. > > If I were an OSM admin, and I'm not, I'd divert resources away from > non-essential services like that and into more power for people actually > editing our data any time. > > If there are so many people who would like to have a well-working XAPI > server or similar, let them get together, find a sponsor (that may also be > some university that allows the group to use a server there), write the > required software and just do it. They don't need support from OSM, OSMF, > OSM Admins or anyone to get it done. > > If this hasn't happened until now, then that's a clear sign that there is > not enough interest or not enough willingness to invest time and money in > this. > > Sitting there any saying "I think OSM should make my life easier" isn't > going to get anything accomplished. > > Bye > Frederik > > > _______________________________________________ > dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev >
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