Am Mittwoch, den 15.12.2010, 20:10 +0100 schrieb Frederik Ramm: > Hi, > > On 12/15/10 19:54, Wyo wrote: > > Just tell me, how many people, who don't get paid for the work, have set > > up their own XAPI server? A handful or a dozens, wordwide? Sorry forgive > > me my harsh words, yet the current procedure to set up an XAPI server is > > useless. For most interested people this is simply out of reach. > > There are many things I am interested in but which are out of reach for > me. I guess I'll either have to work on bringing them within reach, or > I'll have to live with them being out of reach.
You are totally right about this. > > Sure it's a nice thing to be able to download a data set of all pizza > joints in Spain with one simple command, but time and money has to be > invested to make it possible - money to buy servers, time to install and > maintain servers, time to write and maintain the software. > > If I were an OSM admin, and I'm not, I'd divert resources away from > non-essential services like that and into more power for people actually > editing our data any time. > Sorry I don't agree that xapi is a non-essential service. It's one of the easiest ways to get osm data and we should provide easy access to our data in as many ways as possible. I general it I think osm should provide stronger infrastructure around all data available. This concerns a special tiles, database, search (nominatim), routing. We have enough resources. Manpower as well as money. We should invest more in our infrastructure. > If there are so many people who would like to have a well-working XAPI > server or similar, let them get together, find a sponsor (that may also > be some university that allows the group to use a server there), write > the required software and just do it. They don't need support from OSM, > OSMF, OSM Admins or anyone to get it done. > I'm part of a student group. We try to establish our own osm infrastructure and would like to integrate into the greater osm infrastructure. So somehow we need support from OSMF, OSM-Admins as well as theosm-community. We are going to setup one tile cache and a database mirror. We would like to "rewrite" search functionality and perhaps xapi ;) At the moment we are writing some javascript/ajax/frontend-foo and analyse the logs of osm tile servers and generating heatsmaps of http access. We are going to simulate a tile-cache setup with several caches in the future. > If this hasn't happened until now, then that's a clear sign that there > is not enough interest or not enough willingness to invest time and > money in this. Our problem is money which osm could provide. > Sitting there any saying "I think OSM should make my life easier" isn't > going to get anything accomplished. > Osm makes life complicated :) best regards philipp > Bye > Frederik > > _______________________________________________ > dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev _______________________________________________ dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
