I have created the 1.0.x branch. It includes the latest changes from `main` 
branch - as I think all of those changes are useful in this branch.

If anyone thinks of the commits are a problem for this branch, we can remove 
the branch contents.

On 2023/07/04 13:41:09 Matthew Benedict de Detrich wrote:
> Oh and another thing I forgot to mention, there are of course some nuances
> when it comes to bincompat. For example final is an example, i.e. you could
> have an initial method which should have been final but you forgot to mark
> it as such but you decide to add final later on. MiMa would flag this,
> however if the initial method was never intended to be extended/overridden
> and with proper investigation its found that no users are
> overriding/extending that method then exceptions can be made in such cases
> (as a general aside this is also the context why I was strongly pushing for
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/pull/388 to be merged).
> 
> Also on the topic of release branch names, I wouldn't get hung up on what
> we ultimately decide to pick. Unlike version tag naming which is immutable,
> points to actual releases, has tooling built around it and has well
> established naming conventions branches are a bit more flexible and
> changing an existing branch name should not be a big deal (either literally
> or semantically). main of course is an obvious exception here.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 3:20 PM Matthew Benedict de Detrich <
> matthew.dedetr...@aiven.io> wrote:
> 
> > Don't have any complaints with the strategy, we should have a branch for
> > every major that we release (i.e. a one for 1.0, one for 1.1 one for 2.0
> > etc etc). The main thing is deciding on a strategy for how to
> > backport/forward port changes between branches (I am a fan of cherry pick +
> > PR).
> >
> > With regards to the name, this is one area where I disagree with Akka's
> > naming of release-, I personally prefer 1.0.x, 1.1.x because this is what
> > seems to be established in the Scala community. To me at least it's very
> > clear i.e. the missing v indicates its not a single version (its a series)
> > and the .x further emphasizes this.
> >
> > Regarding MIMA/binary compatibility. We should definitely enable MIMA once
> > 1.0.0 lands for the respective Pekko modules. Since we are using
> > versionScheme = SemVer (see
> > https://www.scala-lang.org/blog/2021/02/16/preventing-version-conflicts-with-versionscheme.html
> > and https://www.scala-sbt.org/1.x/docs/Publishing.html) we should
> > actually not make any exceptions to binary compatibility for the interfaces
> > where its relevant (i.e. InternalAPI/private is never covered by bincompat
> > with InternalStableAPI being an exception). The reason I am being so
> > hardline/strict about this is that the entire point of the versionScheme is
> > that it actually makes sbt block dependencies being resolved if it sees a
> > compatibility and although you can override this it then kind of defeats
> > the point of having it in the first place. There may be some exception to
> > this with critical bug/security fixes but we should verify this (at least
> > with what Akka does).
> >
> > I also do believe that this strictness with binary compatibility is
> > something that Akka followed and took very seriously, so it's not something
> > that should be a shock to anyone. There are of course legitimate concerns
> > in being that strict with bincompat, i.e. it does restrict us especially if
> > we have API's that aren't well designed (for w/e reason) and we need to
> > change them however this is part of software development. Another thing to
> > note is that SBT does support custom rows via sbt-projectmatrix (see
> > https://github.com/sbt/sbt-projectmatrix) which for example, if we make
> > are working on Pekko 2.x that is source (but not binary) compatible with
> > Pekko 1.x, we can share the sources between both,
> > https://github.com/rallyhealth/scalacheck-ops/blob/main/build.sbt is an
> > example of this in action.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 2:51 PM PJ Fanning <fannin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Ryan.
> >>
> >> 'release-x.y' is what the Akka community use but I'm flexible about
> >> the name. With tags, we are already using 'v1.0.0' style.
> >>
> >> With active development lines, I would imagine that 2 is a good start.
> >> 1.0.x for important fixes to 1.0.0 and one forward development line
> >> aimed at a 1.1.0 release. Once we see how stable things are, we can
> >> review if we want to base releases around a schedule or if we just
> >> release when it seems that we have something important to release.
> >>
> >> On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 at 13:41, Ryan Skraba <ryan.skr...@aiven.io.invalid>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I don't have a strong opinion on branching and names!   I tend to avoid
> >> > using the term "release" in a branch name since branches, by definition,
> >> > are in movement and a release is a static event.  But it's common
> >> enough in
> >> > ASF projects -- Flink distinguishes between branches `release-1.X` and
> >> tags
> >> > `release-1.X.Y` and it's never been a source of confusion.
> >> >
> >> > With my release manager hat on: It's much easier to keep on top of
> >> commits
> >> > when they are backported or cherry-picked at the same time they're
> >> merged
> >> > to main.  Doing it as a future step (just before a minor release) is
> >> > tedious and error prone!  How many major + minor releases do you think
> >> the
> >> > community can maintain simultaneously?
> >> >
> >> > All my best, Ryan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 11:32 AM PJ Fanning <fannin...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi everyone,
> >> > >
> >> > > After we get the Pekko core repo released (along with the 1.0.0 jars),
> >> > > we need to introduce branches.
> >> > >
> >> > > We need to be able to create patch releases and to open up development
> >> > > for a future 1.1.0 release.
> >> > >
> >> > > I propose that we create a 'release-1.0' branch before we allow
> >> > > forward development to commence on the main branch.
> >> > >
> >> > > With PRs, I suggest that they target the main branch first. If we
> >> > > think that they should be applied to the 'release-1.0' branch too,
> >> > > that should be discussed on the dev mailing list.
> >> > >
> >> > > We should reintroduce the binary compatibility checks to monitor for
> >> > > any breaking changes relative to the 1.0.0 release. With the
> >> > > 'release-1.0' branch, we would probably want to ensure that we avoid
> >> > > binary incompatible changes unless they are absolutely needed.
> >> > >
> >> > > Even with the v1.1.0 focused changes, I think we need to come up with
> >> > > an agreement about how far we want to go. I would suggest that we try
> >> > > to minimise binary incompatible changes. If there is a shortcoming in
> >> > > any existing API function and we need to change its inputs or return
> >> > > type then we should probably deprecate the existing version of the
> >> > > function and introduce a new function.
> >> > >
> >> > > Feel free to add your own opinions to this thread.
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards,
> >> > > PJ
> >> > >
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