Sure - the v1.1.0 targeted PRs don't need to be merged yet.

The 1.0.x branch is not protected (yet) so it can be dropped and
recreated - or it can be rebased and a forced git push can be done.

On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 at 08:55, Matthew de Detrich
<matthew.dedetr...@aiven.io> wrote:
>
> I wanted to do a little bit of cleanup as well as go through currently open 
> issues/PR's for pekko-core and would have preferred if the 1.0.x was made 
> after this since it would have reduced the change for merge conflicts in the 
> case we ever have to cherry pick to 1.0.x.
>
> @PJ Fanning is it a big issue for you to recreate the branch a bit later 
> (like in a week or so?). I don't think we are in a rush to merge the feature 
> changes right now (our focus will likely be on doing the rest of the pekko 
> modules anyways).
>
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 4:58 PM PJ Fanning <fannin...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> I have created the 1.0.x branch. It includes the latest changes from `main` 
>> branch - as I think all of those changes are useful in this branch.
>>
>> If anyone thinks of the commits are a problem for this branch, we can remove 
>> the branch contents.
>>
>> On 2023/07/04 13:41:09 Matthew Benedict de Detrich wrote:
>> > Oh and another thing I forgot to mention, there are of course some nuances
>> > when it comes to bincompat. For example final is an example, i.e. you could
>> > have an initial method which should have been final but you forgot to mark
>> > it as such but you decide to add final later on. MiMa would flag this,
>> > however if the initial method was never intended to be extended/overridden
>> > and with proper investigation its found that no users are
>> > overriding/extending that method then exceptions can be made in such cases
>> > (as a general aside this is also the context why I was strongly pushing for
>> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/pull/388 to be merged).
>> >
>> > Also on the topic of release branch names, I wouldn't get hung up on what
>> > we ultimately decide to pick. Unlike version tag naming which is immutable,
>> > points to actual releases, has tooling built around it and has well
>> > established naming conventions branches are a bit more flexible and
>> > changing an existing branch name should not be a big deal (either literally
>> > or semantically). main of course is an obvious exception here.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 3:20 PM Matthew Benedict de Detrich <
>> > matthew.dedetr...@aiven.io> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Don't have any complaints with the strategy, we should have a branch for
>> > > every major that we release (i.e. a one for 1.0, one for 1.1 one for 2.0
>> > > etc etc). The main thing is deciding on a strategy for how to
>> > > backport/forward port changes between branches (I am a fan of cherry 
>> > > pick +
>> > > PR).
>> > >
>> > > With regards to the name, this is one area where I disagree with Akka's
>> > > naming of release-, I personally prefer 1.0.x, 1.1.x because this is what
>> > > seems to be established in the Scala community. To me at least it's very
>> > > clear i.e. the missing v indicates its not a single version (its a 
>> > > series)
>> > > and the .x further emphasizes this.
>> > >
>> > > Regarding MIMA/binary compatibility. We should definitely enable MIMA 
>> > > once
>> > > 1.0.0 lands for the respective Pekko modules. Since we are using
>> > > versionScheme = SemVer (see
>> > > https://www.scala-lang.org/blog/2021/02/16/preventing-version-conflicts-with-versionscheme.html
>> > > and https://www.scala-sbt.org/1.x/docs/Publishing.html) we should
>> > > actually not make any exceptions to binary compatibility for the 
>> > > interfaces
>> > > where its relevant (i.e. InternalAPI/private is never covered by 
>> > > bincompat
>> > > with InternalStableAPI being an exception). The reason I am being so
>> > > hardline/strict about this is that the entire point of the versionScheme 
>> > > is
>> > > that it actually makes sbt block dependencies being resolved if it sees a
>> > > compatibility and although you can override this it then kind of defeats
>> > > the point of having it in the first place. There may be some exception to
>> > > this with critical bug/security fixes but we should verify this (at least
>> > > with what Akka does).
>> > >
>> > > I also do believe that this strictness with binary compatibility is
>> > > something that Akka followed and took very seriously, so it's not 
>> > > something
>> > > that should be a shock to anyone. There are of course legitimate concerns
>> > > in being that strict with bincompat, i.e. it does restrict us especially 
>> > > if
>> > > we have API's that aren't well designed (for w/e reason) and we need to
>> > > change them however this is part of software development. Another thing 
>> > > to
>> > > note is that SBT does support custom rows via sbt-projectmatrix (see
>> > > https://github.com/sbt/sbt-projectmatrix) which for example, if we make
>> > > are working on Pekko 2.x that is source (but not binary) compatible with
>> > > Pekko 1.x, we can share the sources between both,
>> > > https://github.com/rallyhealth/scalacheck-ops/blob/main/build.sbt is an
>> > > example of this in action.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 2:51 PM PJ Fanning <fannin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Thanks Ryan.
>> > >>
>> > >> 'release-x.y' is what the Akka community use but I'm flexible about
>> > >> the name. With tags, we are already using 'v1.0.0' style.
>> > >>
>> > >> With active development lines, I would imagine that 2 is a good start.
>> > >> 1.0.x for important fixes to 1.0.0 and one forward development line
>> > >> aimed at a 1.1.0 release. Once we see how stable things are, we can
>> > >> review if we want to base releases around a schedule or if we just
>> > >> release when it seems that we have something important to release.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 at 13:41, Ryan Skraba <ryan.skr...@aiven.io.invalid>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I don't have a strong opinion on branching and names!   I tend to 
>> > >> > avoid
>> > >> > using the term "release" in a branch name since branches, by 
>> > >> > definition,
>> > >> > are in movement and a release is a static event.  But it's common
>> > >> enough in
>> > >> > ASF projects -- Flink distinguishes between branches `release-1.X` and
>> > >> tags
>> > >> > `release-1.X.Y` and it's never been a source of confusion.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > With my release manager hat on: It's much easier to keep on top of
>> > >> commits
>> > >> > when they are backported or cherry-picked at the same time they're
>> > >> merged
>> > >> > to main.  Doing it as a future step (just before a minor release) is
>> > >> > tedious and error prone!  How many major + minor releases do you think
>> > >> the
>> > >> > community can maintain simultaneously?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > All my best, Ryan
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 11:32 AM PJ Fanning <fannin...@apache.org>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > Hi everyone,
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > After we get the Pekko core repo released (along with the 1.0.0 
>> > >> > > jars),
>> > >> > > we need to introduce branches.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > We need to be able to create patch releases and to open up 
>> > >> > > development
>> > >> > > for a future 1.1.0 release.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > I propose that we create a 'release-1.0' branch before we allow
>> > >> > > forward development to commence on the main branch.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > With PRs, I suggest that they target the main branch first. If we
>> > >> > > think that they should be applied to the 'release-1.0' branch too,
>> > >> > > that should be discussed on the dev mailing list.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > We should reintroduce the binary compatibility checks to monitor for
>> > >> > > any breaking changes relative to the 1.0.0 release. With the
>> > >> > > 'release-1.0' branch, we would probably want to ensure that we avoid
>> > >> > > binary incompatible changes unless they are absolutely needed.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Even with the v1.1.0 focused changes, I think we need to come up 
>> > >> > > with
>> > >> > > an agreement about how far we want to go. I would suggest that we 
>> > >> > > try
>> > >> > > to minimise binary incompatible changes. If there is a shortcoming 
>> > >> > > in
>> > >> > > any existing API function and we need to change its inputs or return
>> > >> > > type then we should probably deprecate the existing version of the
>> > >> > > function and introduce a new function.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Feel free to add your own opinions to this thread.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Regards,
>> > >> > > PJ
>> > >> > >
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