Hi Chris,

I read the document and I like it.
A few findings / remarks:
- is this document from the perspectiv of a incubating project or the (to 
become) TLP?
- You always mention the PMC (should be (P)PMC for a podling)
- For a podling the "Yes" is missing for board report approval
- Do the 1) / 2) / 3) Stand for footnotes? If so, they are missing
- I think there is a slight rendering issue with the "===" at the bottom left

But these are just slight remarks (except for the podling vs TLP difference).

Julian

Am 04.03.19, 10:23 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <[email protected]>:

    Hi all,
    
    so I just added [1] (will take a few minutes to be live)
    
    However I haven't linked it in the menu yet as we haven't discussed it's 
content.
    
    In general it describes what we have been doing so far (That's why I took 
the liberty to select Consensus Approval for electing new Committers as we have 
been doing that)
    
    If you agree, then I would comment in the link and have it appear in the 
menu.
    
    Chris
    
    [1] http://plc4x.apache.org/developers/decision.html
    
    Am 04.03.19, 09:59 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <[email protected]>:
    
        Hi all,
        
        I am currently creating a copy of the content on 
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DefaultProjectGuidelines
        This is generally agreed upon by the IPMC and I a really good summary. 
I think we shouldn't do anything different.
        
        The main idea of copying instead of linking is: If in the future the 
linked document would change, we wouldn't notice that.
        Then we could have people coming by referring to the new version and we 
haven't realized the changes. This way we could
        Be made aware of changes, discuss them in the project and update our 
website.
        
        And 1 and 2 in my initial email weren't meant as alternatives. I think 
we should start with all "carried over PPMCs" being "PMCs" and "Comitters"
        As we don't have any Committers that are not PPMCs this is sort of a 
trivial assumption ;-)
        
        The number 2 was just a suggestion, that the list of "Carried over 
PMCs" should be all the IPMCs that responded to the "You want to be carried 
over" Email.
        
        Chris
        
        
        Am 04.03.19, 09:01 schrieb "Sebastian Rühl" <[email protected]>:
        
            Hi all,
            
            I agree to what Julian wrote and would also would vote to graduate.
            Currently im a bit involved in private projects but during this 
march I should find some more time for the project again.
            
            Sebastian
            
            On 2019/03/01 20:35:03, Julian Feinauer 
<[email protected]> wrote: 
            > Hi Chris,
            > 
            > first, thanks for bringing this up and doing all necessary 
tedious work.
            > As this is the first incubating project I'm that heavily involved 
I'm lacking the exact feeling but I do not feel "unready".
            > 
            > I think we have achieved a lot since I joined the project and I'm 
very happy that we have such a strong core community.
            > The last release also gave me confidence that we are able to do 
all these steps without you (not that we mind if you do it... ).
            > The next (or the release after) will be performed by Tim and I 
feel confident that he will be able to do it easily with our documentation and 
some help from you or me.
            > 
            > Regarding the PPMC / PMC question... I would favor the second 
variant.
            > We have a pretty big roster (on paper) with many people never 
seen on list (or anywhere else).
            > So I think this could be a good chance to trim it down a bit and 
have it in more accordance with the people who really went active for the 
project.
            > 
            > Tl;dr; Let's do it : )
            > 
            > Julian
            > 
            > 
            > Am 01.03.19, 13:49 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" 
<[email protected]>:
            > 
            >     Ok ... logo is uploaded ... so that should have been the last 
open task (Hopefully)
            >     
            >     Chris
            >     
            >     Am 01.03.19, 13:14 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" 
<[email protected]>:
            >     
            >         Hi Justin,
            >         
            >         well most of the red lines were actually false positives:
            >         - We do have the image and link to the latest events on 
the page, however we include it with CSS
            >         - Also was there a License link (Even if it was 
previously called "Apache License", I updated that in the menu and additionally 
let it output the "Apache" menu containing that link in the bottom navigation.
            >         - I added a Trademark disclaimer in the bottom and added 
a TM to all Apache products mentioned on the start page.
            >         - I'll add the logo ... if I find out how to do it ;-)
            >         
            >         And Justin, thanks for reporting this ... that's why we 
wanted you on board :thumbsup:
            >         
            >         Chris
            >         
            >         Am 01.03.19, 12:50 schrieb "Justin Mclean" 
<[email protected]>:
            >         
            >             Hi,
            >             
            >             > I'll work on the issues reported in [2] ... didn't 
know about that page … 
            >             
            >             Nothing major from what I can see but IMO the 
trademark notice in the footer need updating.
            >             
            >             Thanks,
            >             Justin
            >         
            >         
            >     
            >     
            > 
            > 
            
        
        
    
    

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