Hi Julian,

I had an error in my table markup ... in a few minutes the footnotes should 
appear ... they're already in the adoc file, but not rendered.

The document is from a point of view of the to become TLP (Cause otherwise 
there would have been more to mention ... "IPMC approval of Releases, 
Committers, PPMCs", ...

And as soon as we are a TLP we no longer have a PPMC, but a PMC as the first 
"P" stands for "Podling".

And I think you are misunderstanding the "Board" ... this is not the Incubator 
PMC (IPMC is just the short name of that). The Incubator itself is an Apache 
TLP and has it's PMC. 
All TLPs report to the Board of the apache foundation. So our Incubator report 
goes into one big report of the Incubator project and that is then submitted as 
a big report to the Board.

Chris



Am 04.03.19, 12:00 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" <[email protected]>:

    Hi Chris,
    
    I read the document and I like it.
    A few findings / remarks:
    - is this document from the perspectiv of a incubating project or the (to 
become) TLP?
    - You always mention the PMC (should be (P)PMC for a podling)
    - For a podling the "Yes" is missing for board report approval
    - Do the 1) / 2) / 3) Stand for footnotes? If so, they are missing
    - I think there is a slight rendering issue with the "===" at the bottom 
left
    
    But these are just slight remarks (except for the podling vs TLP 
difference).
    
    Julian
    
    Am 04.03.19, 10:23 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <[email protected]>:
    
        Hi all,
        
        so I just added [1] (will take a few minutes to be live)
        
        However I haven't linked it in the menu yet as we haven't discussed 
it's content.
        
        In general it describes what we have been doing so far (That's why I 
took the liberty to select Consensus Approval for electing new Committers as we 
have been doing that)
        
        If you agree, then I would comment in the link and have it appear in 
the menu.
        
        Chris
        
        [1] http://plc4x.apache.org/developers/decision.html
        
        Am 04.03.19, 09:59 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" 
<[email protected]>:
        
            Hi all,
            
            I am currently creating a copy of the content on 
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DefaultProjectGuidelines
            This is generally agreed upon by the IPMC and I a really good 
summary. I think we shouldn't do anything different.
            
            The main idea of copying instead of linking is: If in the future 
the linked document would change, we wouldn't notice that.
            Then we could have people coming by referring to the new version 
and we haven't realized the changes. This way we could
            Be made aware of changes, discuss them in the project and update 
our website.
            
            And 1 and 2 in my initial email weren't meant as alternatives. I 
think we should start with all "carried over PPMCs" being "PMCs" and "Comitters"
            As we don't have any Committers that are not PPMCs this is sort of 
a trivial assumption ;-)
            
            The number 2 was just a suggestion, that the list of "Carried over 
PMCs" should be all the IPMCs that responded to the "You want to be carried 
over" Email.
            
            Chris
            
            
            Am 04.03.19, 09:01 schrieb "Sebastian Rühl" <[email protected]>:
            
                Hi all,
                
                I agree to what Julian wrote and would also would vote to 
graduate.
                Currently im a bit involved in private projects but during this 
march I should find some more time for the project again.
                
                Sebastian
                
                On 2019/03/01 20:35:03, Julian Feinauer 
<[email protected]> wrote: 
                > Hi Chris,
                > 
                > first, thanks for bringing this up and doing all necessary 
tedious work.
                > As this is the first incubating project I'm that heavily 
involved I'm lacking the exact feeling but I do not feel "unready".
                > 
                > I think we have achieved a lot since I joined the project and 
I'm very happy that we have such a strong core community.
                > The last release also gave me confidence that we are able to 
do all these steps without you (not that we mind if you do it... ).
                > The next (or the release after) will be performed by Tim and 
I feel confident that he will be able to do it easily with our documentation 
and some help from you or me.
                > 
                > Regarding the PPMC / PMC question... I would favor the second 
variant.
                > We have a pretty big roster (on paper) with many people never 
seen on list (or anywhere else).
                > So I think this could be a good chance to trim it down a bit 
and have it in more accordance with the people who really went active for the 
project.
                > 
                > Tl;dr; Let's do it : )
                > 
                > Julian
                > 
                > 
                > Am 01.03.19, 13:49 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" 
<[email protected]>:
                > 
                >     Ok ... logo is uploaded ... so that should have been the 
last open task (Hopefully)
                >     
                >     Chris
                >     
                >     Am 01.03.19, 13:14 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" 
<[email protected]>:
                >     
                >         Hi Justin,
                >         
                >         well most of the red lines were actually false 
positives:
                >         - We do have the image and link to the latest events 
on the page, however we include it with CSS
                >         - Also was there a License link (Even if it was 
previously called "Apache License", I updated that in the menu and additionally 
let it output the "Apache" menu containing that link in the bottom navigation.
                >         - I added a Trademark disclaimer in the bottom and 
added a TM to all Apache products mentioned on the start page.
                >         - I'll add the logo ... if I find out how to do it ;-)
                >         
                >         And Justin, thanks for reporting this ... that's why 
we wanted you on board :thumbsup:
                >         
                >         Chris
                >         
                >         Am 01.03.19, 12:50 schrieb "Justin Mclean" 
<[email protected]>:
                >         
                >             Hi,
                >             
                >             > I'll work on the issues reported in [2] ... 
didn't know about that page … 
                >             
                >             Nothing major from what I can see but IMO the 
trademark notice in the footer need updating.
                >             
                >             Thanks,
                >             Justin
                >         
                >         
                >     
                >     
                > 
                > 
                
            
            
        
        
    
    

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