Bringing xmlbeans out of the attic is my vote.

I can be one of the Xmlbeans PMCs if all we are missing is a head count and
a couple emails to infra.

I don't see taking Xmlbeans out of the attic as a huge support burden. It's
a stable, complete product and any future development is probably just
small bug fixes. As long as infra is okay with that philosophy, removing
Xmlbeans from the attic causes the least confusion for everyone, and may
reduce our support load for POI and Tika when users can't get xmlbeans
working (even if all it is is linking to the FAQ and PJ's GitHub).

Every email we receive probably was the result of 8 hours of struggling to
diagnose the problem in their build setup, and several others who gave up
without contacting us.

On Jan 11, 2018 05:02, "Murphy, Mark" <> wrote:

> If we are going to take on maintenance of XMLBeans, I would suggest that
> getting it out of the attic would be the most appropriate course of action.
> This would reduce confusion for people trying to find XML Beans as there
> would only be a single project to reference rather than one in the attic
> and another in the POI project.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Burch []
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:59 AM
> To: POI Developers List <>
> Subject: Re: XMLBeans in 4.0.0 release
> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018, pj.fanning wrote:
> > I don't fancy trying to merge the xmlbeans and poi ant builds. I've
> > been trying for an hour or more and still getting issues.
> There's no need to do this!
> We'd keep the two codebases separate, and probably release at different
> times. (XMLBeans hardly ever, except when we find bugs) All that would
> happen is that we'd swap the group ID, add POI to the release names, and
> update the readme etc to refer to POI as the PMC providing the oversight
> So, assuming we're releasing it as POI rather than getting it out of the
> attic:
>   * Copy xmlbeans trunk in svn to
>   * Merge in the fixes
>   * Update the bin/src packages to have poi in them, eg
>   * Update the poms to be under org.apache.poi rather than xmlbeans
>   * Test, vote, release!
> Or, if we want to take xmlbeans out of the attic, we'd do:
>   * Vote to take it on
>   * Wait for attic PMC to confirm
>   * Get infra to unlock svn for xmlbeans
>   * Merge in fixes
>   * Test, vote, release!
> Nick
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