On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Paul Sharples <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 30/05/2012 19:18, Jasha Joachimsthal wrote:
>>
>> On 30 May 2012 19:11, Paul Sharples<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/05/2012 16:52, Jasha Joachimsthal wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30 May 2012 17:44, Paul
>>>> Sharples<[email protected].**uk<[email protected]>>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  On 30/05/2012 16:08, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote:
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>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jasha
>>>>>>> Joachimsthal
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 10:26 AM
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Team Pages
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30 May 2012 16:10, Sean Cooper<[email protected]>    wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Is anyone currently working on team pages, or working on defining a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> structure for it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd like to take a crack at defining it this week, but I don't want
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> interrupt anyone that might already be working on the problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I am planning to work on it, but it's not clear yet when. So if you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>> start, go ahead :) What I need is a concept of a page that is shared
>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>> group of users, but the users cannot edit the page, only the
>>>>>>> administrator
>>>>>>> of the page. See also [1]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Please add to the proposal http://wiki.apache.org/rave/**
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ArchitectureTopics/PageModel<h**ttp://wiki.apache.org/rave/**
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ArchitectureTopics/PageModel<http://wiki.apache.org/rave/ArchitectureTopics/PageModel>
>>>>>>  I've got some changes&improvements I've made to the page sharing
>>>>>
>>>>> facility
>>>>>
>>>>> (RAVE-103), which probably are relevant to this discussion.
>>>>> (not team pages yet, but the ability to make shared pages non-editable,
>>>>> for instance)
>>>>> Is it okay to commit this or are we too near the next build (i.e. is
>>>>> there
>>>>> a code freeze yet?)
>>>>>
>>>>>  There's no code freeze yet, but if you break something now, you have
>>>>
>>>> less
>>>> than 24 hours to fix it ;)
>>>> Luckily some of the basic features are now covered by the integration
>>>> tests:
>>>> http://rave.apache.org/**integration-tests.html<http://rave.apache.org/integration-tests.html>
>>>>
>>> Thanks Jasha, I've just comitted the changes.   I'd be grateful if some
>>> of
>>> the other commiters could take a look.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>> Good improvements! Without permission to edit the shared page users don't
>> get the false hope to move or add widgets. I even tried to mess with the
>> widget store url and the referring page id, but then you still cannot add
>> widgets :)
>>
>> In the share page dialog:
>> Shouldn't the "Edit preferences" option be disabled for users that don't
>> have edit permission? IMO it would be even better to remove the disabled
>> options than to show them greyed out.
>
>
> Just looking at the other menus, (the page menu for example) actions I can't
> take as a user tend to be greyed out so I took the cue from that UI pattern.
>  (unless I have missed something :-) ) Its easy enough to change I guess.
>
> The reason I didn't grey out the "Edit preferences" was so that you can
> change something in your session, but it will not be persisted and so will
> revert back to the perisisted state when you log in again.  This is similar
> to how the minimize/maximize widget now works for a non editing user.  This
> was an assumption and could be completely locked down instead.
>
>
>> The label "Edit permission" is a bit confusing (what permission can this
>> person edit?). Maybe "Permission to edit" or "Can edit page" are less
>> confusing. It is easy to change the add/remove links into checkboxes?
>
>
> Fair comment & easy enough to change
>

My vote would be to disable all menus unless you are the owner/editor.
 It doesn't make sense to allow someone with read-only access to
perform any actions on the page or the gadgets themselves.  i.e.  If I
have read-only access to the page I shouldn't be able to edit the
preferences or even maximize the gadget.

>
>>
>>
>>>> Jasha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   [1]
>>>>> http://markmail.org/thread/****5dfecb5gk7qynqdc<http://markmail.org/thread/**5dfecb5gk7qynqdc>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://**markmail.org/thread/**5dfecb5gk7qynqdc<http://markmail.org/thread/5dfecb5gk7qynqdc>
>>>>>>  Jasha
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