On 30 May 2012 22:16, Sean Cooper <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Paul Sharples <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > On 30/05/2012 19:18, Jasha Joachimsthal wrote:
> >>
> >> On 30 May 2012 19:11, Paul Sharples<[email protected]>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 30/05/2012 16:52, Jasha Joachimsthal wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 30 May 2012 17:44, Paul
> >>>> Sharples<[email protected].**uk<[email protected]>>
> >>>>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  On 30/05/2012 16:08, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Content preview:>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Content analysis details:   (-10.0 points, 5.0 required)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   pts rule name              description
> >>>>>>  ---- ---------------------- ------------------------------****
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --------------------
> >>>>>>  -5.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI       RBL: Sender listed at
> >>>>>> http://www.dnswl.org/,
> >>>>>> high
> >>>>>>                              trust
> >>>>>>                              [140.211.11.3 listed in list.dnswl.org
> ]
> >>>>>>  -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD      Envelope sender domain matches handover
> >>>>>> relay
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>                              domain
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> >>>>>> (trusted
> >>>>>>                               relay)
> >>>>>>                              [Return Path SenderScore Certified
> >>>>>> (formerly]
> >>>>>>                        [Bonded Sender) -<http://www.**
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> senderscorecertified.com<http:**//www.senderscorecertified.com<
> http://www.senderscorecertified.com>
> >>>>>> **>>]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  -2.0 RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE        RBL: Sender is in Return Path Safe
> >>>>>> (trusted
> >>>>>> relay)
> >>>>>>                              [Return Path SenderScore Safe List
> >>>>>> (formerly]
> >>>>>>                      [Habeas Safelist) -<http://www.**
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> senderscorecertified.com<http:**//www.senderscorecertified.com<
> http://www.senderscorecertified.com>
> >>>>>> **>>]
> >>>>>> Return-Path: dev-return-5463-P.Sharples=**bol**
> >>>>>> [email protected]**<[email protected]>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2012 15:09:06.0689 (UTC)
> >>>>>> FILETIME=[284E3710:01CD3E76]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Jasha
> >>>>>>> Joachimsthal
> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 10:26 AM
> >>>>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Team Pages
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 30 May 2012 16:10, Sean Cooper<[email protected]>    wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  Is anyone currently working on team pages, or working on defining
> a
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> structure for it?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'd like to take a crack at defining it this week, but I don't
> want
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> interrupt anyone that might already be working on the problem.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -Sean
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  I am planning to work on it, but it's not clear yet when. So if
> you
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> want to
> >>>>>>> start, go ahead :) What I need is a concept of a page that is
> shared
> >>>>>>> with a
> >>>>>>> group of users, but the users cannot edit the page, only the
> >>>>>>> administrator
> >>>>>>> of the page. See also [1]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  Please add to the proposal http://wiki.apache.org/rave/**
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ArchitectureTopics/PageModel<h**ttp://wiki.apache.org/rave/**
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ArchitectureTopics/PageModel<
> http://wiki.apache.org/rave/ArchitectureTopics/PageModel>
> >>>>>>  I've got some changes&improvements I've made to the page sharing
> >>>>>
> >>>>> facility
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (RAVE-103), which probably are relevant to this discussion.
> >>>>> (not team pages yet, but the ability to make shared pages
> non-editable,
> >>>>> for instance)
> >>>>> Is it okay to commit this or are we too near the next build (i.e. is
> >>>>> there
> >>>>> a code freeze yet?)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  There's no code freeze yet, but if you break something now, you have
> >>>>
> >>>> less
> >>>> than 24 hours to fix it ;)
> >>>> Luckily some of the basic features are now covered by the integration
> >>>> tests:
> >>>> http://rave.apache.org/**integration-tests.html<
> http://rave.apache.org/integration-tests.html>
> >>>>
> >>> Thanks Jasha, I've just comitted the changes.   I'd be grateful if some
> >>> of
> >>> the other commiters could take a look.
> >>>
> >>> Paul
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Good improvements! Without permission to edit the shared page users
> don't
> >> get the false hope to move or add widgets. I even tried to mess with the
> >> widget store url and the referring page id, but then you still cannot
> add
> >> widgets :)
> >>
> >> In the share page dialog:
> >> Shouldn't the "Edit preferences" option be disabled for users that don't
> >> have edit permission? IMO it would be even better to remove the disabled
> >> options than to show them greyed out.
> >
> >
> > Just looking at the other menus, (the page menu for example) actions I
> can't
> > take as a user tend to be greyed out so I took the cue from that UI
> pattern.
> >  (unless I have missed something :-) ) Its easy enough to change I guess.
> >
> > The reason I didn't grey out the "Edit preferences" was so that you can
> > change something in your session, but it will not be persisted and so
> will
> > revert back to the perisisted state when you log in again.  This is
> similar
> > to how the minimize/maximize widget now works for a non editing user.
>  This
> > was an assumption and could be completely locked down instead.
> >
> >
> >> The label "Edit permission" is a bit confusing (what permission can this
> >> person edit?). Maybe "Permission to edit" or "Can edit page" are less
> >> confusing. It is easy to change the add/remove links into checkboxes?
> >
> >
> > Fair comment & easy enough to change
> >
>
> My vote would be to disable all menus unless you are the owner/editor.
>  It doesn't make sense to allow someone with read-only access to
> perform any actions on the page or the gadgets themselves.  i.e.  If I
> have read-only access to the page I shouldn't be able to edit the
> preferences or even maximize the gadget.
>

The view of the gadget (home or canvas) is not stored and defaults to the
home view. Not allowing to maximize the gadget may mean a loss of
functionality. See for example the Google translate gadget which has more
options in the canvas (maximized) view.



>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>>> Jasha
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>  Paul
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   [1]
> >>>>> http://markmail.org/thread/****5dfecb5gk7qynqdc<
> http://markmail.org/thread/**5dfecb5gk7qynqdc>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <http://**markmail.org/thread/**5dfecb5gk7qynqdc<
> http://markmail.org/thread/5dfecb5gk7qynqdc>
> >>>>>>  Jasha
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  -----
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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> 05/28/12
> >
> >
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