I feel like we are trying to fit ourselves to the limitations of a
template, rather than setting up to do what will present the material in
the best way. I am almost positive that we will have collections of pages
that we can't even anticipate now, but for sure "Flex in a Week" is a great
example. (I would love to have that one back!)

What is the virtue of an auto-generated table of contents? We are not
auto-generating the contents...

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 8:08 PM, Alex Harui <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I've spent the afternoon reading Jekyll doc.
>
> Jekyll has a concept of "Collections" that could be used to help
> auto-generate a TOC, but if there is a "Welcome" collection (and a "Get
> Started" and "Create An Application" and other collections for each
> top-level), the collection pages will be at URLs like
> "apache.github.io/royale-docs/welcome/index.html.  There does not seem to
> be a way to have the landing page (when you hit the URL
> apache.github.io/royale-docs) be welcome/index.html.  Unless we put an
> redirect in index.html.
>
> Now we could make the Welcome not a collection and just a set of "pages".
> But I'm wondering if we are going to have any other "set" of documentation
> served from royale-docs such that the index.html should have a link to the
> Welcome collection as our main user document and some other set of
> pages/collections on royals-docs would be considered a different set with
> a different link from index.html.  If we generated static ASDoc would we
> stick it all on royale-docs?  There once was a whole series of tutorials
> like "Flex In A Week".  Would that be another "set"?
>
> Thoughts?
> -Alex
>
> On 1/19/18, 1:00 PM, "Andrew Wetmore" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>I assume that the Welcome page is the main index.html landing page? Maybe
> >on its content it will lead you more towards the Get Started page.
> >
> >Yes and yes.
> >
> >On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 4:40 PM, Alex Harui <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> OK, we'll leave it as you have it and see what kind of feedback we get.
> >> I
> >> assume that the Welcome page is the main index.html landing page? Maybe
> >>on
> >> its content it will lead you more towards the Get Started page.
> >>
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >> On 1/19/18, 9:36 AM, "Andrew Wetmore" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I am not sure I agree about putting "Getting Started" first. If the
> >>table
> >> >of contents as I propose it appears with its top-level entries
> >>collapsed,
> >> >then "Get started" is the second item the reader sees. I do not think
> >>that
> >> >is too big of a hurdle to jump over.
> >> >
> >> >On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Alex Harui <[email protected]>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Andrew,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for doing this.  I'm wondering if we should have a "Getting
> >> >> Started" before "Features and Concepts".  I would like to see us
> >> >>emphasize
> >> >> the Express components more going forward, which may reduce the
> >>emphasis
> >> >> on PAYG for the newbie.  PAYG is important to the framework
> >>developers
> >> >>in
> >> >> order to provide the app developer with more ways to tune their app,
> >>but
> >> >> only if they need it.  I'd like to see the doc lead you to
> >>downloading
> >> >> Royale and getting some app up and running in, say, 10 minutes.
> >> >>
> >> >> I hope to spend some time on the doc over the next few days or more,
> >>so
> >> >>I
> >> >> will keep this proposal in mind as we explore how to implement the
> >>doc.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> -Alex
> >> >>
> >> >> On 1/19/18, 7:38 AM, "Andrew Wetmore" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Hi, all:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I have started to outline the sort of table of contents for Royale
> >>user
> >> >> >documentation that I as a non-expert developer would want to see. I
> >> >>would
> >> >> >want the ToC to lead me to information that will help me both
> >>migrate
> >> >> >existing Flex projects to Royale and create new projects within the
> >> >>Royale
> >> >> >ecosystem.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The outline is in this Google Doc:
> >> >> >https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> >> https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.goog
> >> >> >le.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1ap0jzhqfhKITE3F_tFijndz_
> >> >> gpCKXgcZHlnycNSeTGw%2Fedi
> >> >> >t%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >> >> 7C1861f488d46a4134ce4f
> >> >> >08d55f52a21a%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >> >> 7C6365197308688271
> >> >> >31&sdata=3BswQuSRfgKvk7rZX83CXTRJsFhA7SEDWSlFQHkLIrM%3D&reserved=0
> >> >> >
> >> >> >If you use that link you should have editor privileges for the
> >> >>document.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I am fairly confident about the contents of the first column. I have
> >> >>not
> >> >> >completed building out the second and third columns, but I think you
> >> >>can
> >> >> >get a sense of what you might see as you drill down into the help
> >>docs.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I am really good at organizing this sort of stuff and at helping
> >> >>explain
> >> >> >complex concepts clearly. However, I probably have the least
> >>technical
> >> >> >knowledge of anybody reading this thread, so my role must be in
> >>support
> >> >> >rather than as a first-level knowledge source.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I will continue building out the second and third columns, but feel
> >> >>free
> >> >> >to
> >> >> >pitch in. If you want to suggest things rather than make an edit,
> >> >>adding
> >> >> >comments to the document might be the best way. You can also change
> >> >>from
> >> >> >"edit" to "suggest" mode if you want your changes to be provisional
> >>and
> >> >> >highlighted.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >a
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >Andrew Wetmore
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage1
> >> >>>4
> >> >> .
> >> >> >blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >> >> 7C1861f488d46a4134ce4f08
> >> >> >d55f52a21a%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >> >> 7C636519730868827131
> >> >>
> >> >>>&sdata=B%2FnPo%2FH6U8AnuJlynjU%2B3eKHfgKu%
> >> 2B3fhOkmENjwjIy4%3D&reserved=0
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Andrew Wetmore
> >> >
> >>
> >>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage1
> >>>4
> >> .
> >> >blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >> 7C9c35244ba8004d7e4ebd08
> >> >d55f633d43%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >> 7C636519802209896361
> >> >&sdata=ssBcUu2uT%2B9HEL9jV1GEy7yodbGfEliCc7B9Qf1%2BYFA%3D&reserved=0
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >--
> >Andrew Wetmore
> >
> >https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> .
> >blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
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>


-- 
Andrew Wetmore

http://cottage14.blogspot.com/

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