Forgot to share the get involved page for you to check actual state:

https://royale.apache.org/get-involved/

Thanks

El mié., 16 oct. 2019 a las 21:20, Carlos Rovira (<[email protected]>)
escribió:

> Hi,
>
> thanks all for sharing ideas on how to deal with this issue. For what I
> read I like some of them.
>
> We already have a "Get Involved" page (most of the time with forget we
> have menu options in the footer bar and top level menu options are only a
> subset of what we think "most important" for newcomers).
> With that page in mind, I think we have solve the "creation of a new
> page". We can use that.
>
> What I see more easy is then is to move the nightly builds section to that
> page, so we are done.
>
> Let me know what you think.
>
> Carlos
>
>
>
> El mié., 16 oct. 2019 a las 18:38, Alex Harui (<[email protected]>)
> escribió:
>
>> The principle behind the policy is not ridiculous.  AIUI, it is important
>> that the general public only downloads artifacts that the PMC has approved
>> as an act of the foundation, otherwise the foundation's ability to provide
>> a legal shield for release managers is weakened.
>>
>> I mostly agree that the way the word "might" in the policy is being
>> interpreted is "ridiculous".  I really don't think the general public is
>> being encouraged to download our nightly builds the way the current site
>> reads.  However, both Justin and I warned about the wording on the download
>> page [1] before it went live because we've seen other projects get
>> disrupted by similar nitpicking.  AFAICT, the trend at the ASF is to
>> continue to be more restrictive about the word "might" and make it harder
>> to find links to nightly builds on project websites.  Other projects that
>> used to have links or links "below the fold" no longer do when I went
>> looking just now.  It won't be worth it to fight it, so let's just plan on
>> changing.
>>
>> I see other projects with separate pages, but there is always a chance
>> that someday the word "might" will be restricted even more to include
>> separate pages.  I'm not making the changes to the site, so I'll leave it
>> up to those who are doing the work to decide.
>>
>> IMO, with that in mind, when I look at the current site, it is almost
>> entirely tuned towards our users.  The only place we invite folks to
>> contribute is way down on the landing page.  And the page that takes you to
>> is about mailing lists.  I guess you could say that the GitHub link is an
>> implied indicator that we're an open source project and that you should
>> contribute.
>>
>> So, here are my ideas.  Feel free to reject them all:
>>
>> 1) Move the nightly build portion of the download page to a wiki page in
>> GitHub.
>> 2) Add a "Get Involved" or "Contributing" menu item similar to what Harbs
>> suggested that goes to a different page like Andrew suggested
>> 3) Replace the GitHub menu item with the "Get Involved" or "Contributing"
>> menu item
>> 4) Add analytics to the nightly build links so we can see how many people
>> click it
>> 5) Add a popup to the link to the nightly build so folks must agree to
>> the disclaimers.
>>
>> I recommend that we just do #1 and move on.  We've got plenty of other
>> things to work on.
>>
>> My 2 cents,
>> -Alex
>>
>> [1]
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8564ab5687c631bd4961bf8b987a5e9d30d6673d5050f72b8a9aaa53@%3Cdev.royale.apache.org%3E
>>
>> On 10/16/19, 7:08 AM, "Josh Tynjala" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>     Hopefully a separate public page is allowed. What a ridiculous policy!
>>
>>     --
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>>
>>     On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 6:30 AM Andrew Wetmore <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     > Can they have their own dedicated page, wreathed around with
>> cautions and
>>     > disclaimers to scare away folks who should not be using them?
>>     >
>>     > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 9:42 AM Carlos Rovira <
>> [email protected]>
>>     > wrote:
>>     >
>>     > > Hi,
>>     > >
>>     > > we get request to remove Nightly builds from download page (see
>> issue in
>>     > > GitHub below).
>>     > > I open this thread to discuss where is better place for it.
>>     > >
>>     > > thanks
>>     > >
>>     > >
>>     > > El mié., 16 oct. 2019 a las 14:26, GitBox (<[email protected]>)
>> escribió:
>>     > >
>>     > > > carlosrovira commented on issue #498: Nightly builds must not be
>>     > promoted
>>     > > > on download pages
>>     > > > URL:
>>     > > >
>>     >
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>>     > > >
>>     > > >
>>     > > >    I searched to the place in our mailing list that seems to be
>> the
>>     > > source
>>     > > > of the actual state for nightly on download page:
>>     > > >
>>     > > >
>>     > > >
>>     > >
>>     >
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>>     > > >
>>     > > >    I think If we want to change it we need to discuss in list
>> how we
>>     > want
>>     > > > it now
>>     > > >
>>     > > >
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