Forgot to share the get involved page for you to check actual state: https://royale.apache.org/get-involved/
Thanks El mié., 16 oct. 2019 a las 21:20, Carlos Rovira (<[email protected]>) escribió: > Hi, > > thanks all for sharing ideas on how to deal with this issue. For what I > read I like some of them. > > We already have a "Get Involved" page (most of the time with forget we > have menu options in the footer bar and top level menu options are only a > subset of what we think "most important" for newcomers). > With that page in mind, I think we have solve the "creation of a new > page". We can use that. > > What I see more easy is then is to move the nightly builds section to that > page, so we are done. > > Let me know what you think. > > Carlos > > > > El mié., 16 oct. 2019 a las 18:38, Alex Harui (<[email protected]>) > escribió: > >> The principle behind the policy is not ridiculous. AIUI, it is important >> that the general public only downloads artifacts that the PMC has approved >> as an act of the foundation, otherwise the foundation's ability to provide >> a legal shield for release managers is weakened. >> >> I mostly agree that the way the word "might" in the policy is being >> interpreted is "ridiculous". I really don't think the general public is >> being encouraged to download our nightly builds the way the current site >> reads. However, both Justin and I warned about the wording on the download >> page [1] before it went live because we've seen other projects get >> disrupted by similar nitpicking. AFAICT, the trend at the ASF is to >> continue to be more restrictive about the word "might" and make it harder >> to find links to nightly builds on project websites. Other projects that >> used to have links or links "below the fold" no longer do when I went >> looking just now. It won't be worth it to fight it, so let's just plan on >> changing. >> >> I see other projects with separate pages, but there is always a chance >> that someday the word "might" will be restricted even more to include >> separate pages. I'm not making the changes to the site, so I'll leave it >> up to those who are doing the work to decide. >> >> IMO, with that in mind, when I look at the current site, it is almost >> entirely tuned towards our users. The only place we invite folks to >> contribute is way down on the landing page. And the page that takes you to >> is about mailing lists. I guess you could say that the GitHub link is an >> implied indicator that we're an open source project and that you should >> contribute. >> >> So, here are my ideas. Feel free to reject them all: >> >> 1) Move the nightly build portion of the download page to a wiki page in >> GitHub. >> 2) Add a "Get Involved" or "Contributing" menu item similar to what Harbs >> suggested that goes to a different page like Andrew suggested >> 3) Replace the GitHub menu item with the "Get Involved" or "Contributing" >> menu item >> 4) Add analytics to the nightly build links so we can see how many people >> click it >> 5) Add a popup to the link to the nightly build so folks must agree to >> the disclaimers. >> >> I recommend that we just do #1 and move on. We've got plenty of other >> things to work on. >> >> My 2 cents, >> -Alex >> >> [1] >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8564ab5687c631bd4961bf8b987a5e9d30d6673d5050f72b8a9aaa53@%3Cdev.royale.apache.org%3E >> >> On 10/16/19, 7:08 AM, "Josh Tynjala" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hopefully a separate public page is allowed. What a ridiculous policy! >> >> -- >> Josh Tynjala >> Bowler Hat LLC < >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbowlerhat.dev&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cc5a1640a5e5c45c5b09708d752424c48%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637068317009834112&sdata=KCzYsqmguuSBdHlWZEq7V%2FgPmPMOa2pw9LFaxyZBTEo%3D&reserved=0 >> > >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 6:30 AM Andrew Wetmore <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > Can they have their own dedicated page, wreathed around with >> cautions and >> > disclaimers to scare away folks who should not be using them? >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 9:42 AM Carlos Rovira < >> [email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > we get request to remove Nightly builds from download page (see >> issue in >> > > GitHub below). >> > > I open this thread to discuss where is better place for it. >> > > >> > > thanks >> > > >> > > >> > > El mié., 16 oct. 2019 a las 14:26, GitBox (<[email protected]>) >> escribió: >> > > >> > > > carlosrovira commented on issue #498: Nightly builds must not be >> > promoted >> > > > on download pages >> > > > URL: >> > > > >> > >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fapache%2Froyale-asjs%2Fissues%2F498%23issuecomment-542675010&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cc5a1640a5e5c45c5b09708d752424c48%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637068317009834112&sdata=%2BGvA%2BRakK5gM5gbVv%2BFVTogTh%2Bb4%2BVNpXOxYYoX%2BFH4%3D&reserved=0 >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > I searched to the place in our mailing list that seems to be >> the >> > > source >> > > > of the actual state for nightly on download page: >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com%2FNeed-help-with-CSS-class-selector-font-family-is-always-Arial-tp1418p1485.html&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cc5a1640a5e5c45c5b09708d752424c48%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637068317009834112&sdata=ZLZ4e9gIq62avxUPbA%2F9zVKTY1%2FjUPVGXH%2FNhF0pBMM%3D&reserved=0 >> > > > >> > > > I think If we want to change it we need to discuss in list >> how we >> > want >> > > > it now >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service. >> > > > To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the >> > > > URL above to go to the specific comment. >> > > > >> > > > For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure >> at: >> > > > [email protected] >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > With regards, >> > > > Apache Git Services >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Carlos Rovira >> > > >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cc5a1640a5e5c45c5b09708d752424c48%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637068317009834112&sdata=UKrC2WmUUtQhs8Hwx%2FVA2%2Fl66k23ajS6FXMGx8zjqWg%3D&reserved=0 >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Andrew Wetmore >> > >> > >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14.blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cc5a1640a5e5c45c5b09708d752424c48%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637068317009834112&sdata=3W%2FSGSLlBPA4JB8tA4BLy5J%2BeGiMHzNPhC6Lt9nY1so%3D&reserved=0 >> > >> >> >> > > -- > Carlos Rovira > http://about.me/carlosrovira > > -- Carlos Rovira http://about.me/carlosrovira
