Hi,

I did it in pre:

https://royale.codeoscopic.com/download/
https://royale.codeoscopic.com/get-involved/

will push it tomorrow if nobody suggest any other change

thanks

Carlos



El mié., 16 oct. 2019 a las 21:27, Alex Harui (<[email protected]>)
escribió:

> Sounds ok to me.
>
> On 10/16/19, 12:21 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     thanks all for sharing ideas on how to deal with this issue. For what I
>     read I like some of them.
>
>     We already have a "Get Involved" page (most of the time with forget we
> have
>     menu options in the footer bar and top level menu options are only a
> subset
>     of what we think "most important" for newcomers).
>     With that page in mind, I think we have solve the "creation of a new
> page".
>     We can use that.
>
>     What I see more easy is then is to move the nightly builds section to
> that
>     page, so we are done.
>
>     Let me know what you think.
>
>     Carlos
>
>
>
>     El mié., 16 oct. 2019 a las 18:38, Alex Harui
> (<[email protected]>)
>     escribió:
>
>     > The principle behind the policy is not ridiculous.  AIUI, it is
> important
>     > that the general public only downloads artifacts that the PMC has
> approved
>     > as an act of the foundation, otherwise the foundation's ability to
> provide
>     > a legal shield for release managers is weakened.
>     >
>     > I mostly agree that the way the word "might" in the policy is being
>     > interpreted is "ridiculous".  I really don't think the general
> public is
>     > being encouraged to download our nightly builds the way the current
> site
>     > reads.  However, both Justin and I warned about the wording on the
> download
>     > page [1] before it went live because we've seen other projects get
>     > disrupted by similar nitpicking.  AFAICT, the trend at the ASF is to
>     > continue to be more restrictive about the word "might" and make it
> harder
>     > to find links to nightly builds on project websites.  Other projects
> that
>     > used to have links or links "below the fold" no longer do when I went
>     > looking just now.  It won't be worth it to fight it, so let's just
> plan on
>     > changing.
>     >
>     > I see other projects with separate pages, but there is always a
> chance
>     > that someday the word "might" will be restricted even more to include
>     > separate pages.  I'm not making the changes to the site, so I'll
> leave it
>     > up to those who are doing the work to decide.
>     >
>     > IMO, with that in mind, when I look at the current site, it is almost
>     > entirely tuned towards our users.  The only place we invite folks to
>     > contribute is way down on the landing page.  And the page that takes
> you to
>     > is about mailing lists.  I guess you could say that the GitHub link
> is an
>     > implied indicator that we're an open source project and that you
> should
>     > contribute.
>     >
>     > So, here are my ideas.  Feel free to reject them all:
>     >
>     > 1) Move the nightly build portion of the download page to a wiki
> page in
>     > GitHub.
>     > 2) Add a "Get Involved" or "Contributing" menu item similar to what
> Harbs
>     > suggested that goes to a different page like Andrew suggested
>     > 3) Replace the GitHub menu item with the "Get Involved" or
> "Contributing"
>     > menu item
>     > 4) Add analytics to the nightly build links so we can see how many
> people
>     > click it
>     > 5) Add a popup to the link to the nightly build so folks must agree
> to the
>     > disclaimers.
>     >
>     > I recommend that we just do #1 and move on.  We've got plenty of
> other
>     > things to work on.
>     >
>     > My 2 cents,
>     > -Alex
>     >
>     > [1]
>     >
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>     >     Hopefully a separate public page is allowed. What a ridiculous
> policy!
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>     >     On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 6:30 AM Andrew Wetmore <
> [email protected]>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     >     > Can they have their own dedicated page, wreathed around with
>     > cautions and
>     >     > disclaimers to scare away folks who should not be using them?
>     >     >
>     >     > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 9:42 AM Carlos Rovira <
>     > [email protected]>
>     >     > wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     > > Hi,
>     >     > >
>     >     > > we get request to remove Nightly builds from download page
> (see
>     > issue in
>     >     > > GitHub below).
>     >     > > I open this thread to discuss where is better place for it.
>     >     > >
>     >     > > thanks
>     >     > >
>     >     > >
>     >     > > El mié., 16 oct. 2019 a las 14:26, GitBox (<[email protected]>)
>     > escribió:
>     >     > >
>     >     > > > carlosrovira commented on issue #498: Nightly builds must
> not be
>     >     > promoted
>     >     > > > on download pages
>     >     > > > URL:
>     >     > > >
>     >     >
>     >
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>     >     > > >
>     >     > > >    I searched to the place in our mailing list that seems
> to be
>     > the
>     >     > > source
>     >     > > > of the actual state for nightly on download page:
>     >     > > >
>     >     > > >
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>     >     > > >    I think If we want to change it we need to discuss in
> list
>     > how we
>     >     > want
>     >     > > > it now
>     >     > > >
>     >     > > >
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