Updated with your suggestion Harbs: https://royale.codeoscopic.com/download/
El mié., 16 oct. 2019 a las 21:44, Harbs (<[email protected]>) escribió: > I think we should add a section to the download page about nightly builds. > Someone who is looking for the nightly builds might not know where to find > it. > > Something like: > > We do not recommend nightly builds for application developers as they have > not been properly tested and can have serious bugs. Nightly builds are > useful if you want to get involved in framework development are are > prepared to work with bleeding edge code. Source code and nightly build > download links can be found on our “get involved” page[link]. > > Harbs > > > On Oct 16, 2019, at 10:36 PM, Carlos Rovira <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I did it in pre: > > > > https://royale.codeoscopic.com/download/ > > https://royale.codeoscopic.com/get-involved/ > > > > will push it tomorrow if nobody suggest any other change > > > > thanks > > > > Carlos > > > > > > > > El mié., 16 oct. 2019 a las 21:27, Alex Harui (<[email protected] > >) > > escribió: > > > >> Sounds ok to me. > >> > >> On 10/16/19, 12:21 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> thanks all for sharing ideas on how to deal with this issue. For > what I > >> read I like some of them. > >> > >> We already have a "Get Involved" page (most of the time with forget > we > >> have > >> menu options in the footer bar and top level menu options are only a > >> subset > >> of what we think "most important" for newcomers). > >> With that page in mind, I think we have solve the "creation of a new > >> page". > >> We can use that. > >> > >> What I see more easy is then is to move the nightly builds section to > >> that > >> page, so we are done. > >> > >> Let me know what you think. > >> > >> Carlos > >> > >> > >> > >> El mié., 16 oct. 2019 a las 18:38, Alex Harui > >> (<[email protected]>) > >> escribió: > >> > >>> The principle behind the policy is not ridiculous. AIUI, it is > >> important > >>> that the general public only downloads artifacts that the PMC has > >> approved > >>> as an act of the foundation, otherwise the foundation's ability to > >> provide > >>> a legal shield for release managers is weakened. > >>> > >>> I mostly agree that the way the word "might" in the policy is being > >>> interpreted is "ridiculous". I really don't think the general > >> public is > >>> being encouraged to download our nightly builds the way the current > >> site > >>> reads. However, both Justin and I warned about the wording on the > >> download > >>> page [1] before it went live because we've seen other projects get > >>> disrupted by similar nitpicking. AFAICT, the trend at the ASF is to > >>> continue to be more restrictive about the word "might" and make it > >> harder > >>> to find links to nightly builds on project websites. Other projects > >> that > >>> used to have links or links "below the fold" no longer do when I went > >>> looking just now. It won't be worth it to fight it, so let's just > >> plan on > >>> changing. > >>> > >>> I see other projects with separate pages, but there is always a > >> chance > >>> that someday the word "might" will be restricted even more to include > >>> separate pages. I'm not making the changes to the site, so I'll > >> leave it > >>> up to those who are doing the work to decide. > >>> > >>> IMO, with that in mind, when I look at the current site, it is almost > >>> entirely tuned towards our users. The only place we invite folks to > >>> contribute is way down on the landing page. And the page that takes > >> you to > >>> is about mailing lists. I guess you could say that the GitHub link > >> is an > >>> implied indicator that we're an open source project and that you > >> should > >>> contribute. > >>> > >>> So, here are my ideas. Feel free to reject them all: > >>> > >>> 1) Move the nightly build portion of the download page to a wiki > >> page in > >>> GitHub. > >>> 2) Add a "Get Involved" or "Contributing" menu item similar to what > >> Harbs > >>> suggested that goes to a different page like Andrew suggested > >>> 3) Replace the GitHub menu item with the "Get Involved" or > >> "Contributing" > >>> menu item > >>> 4) Add analytics to the nightly build links so we can see how many > >> people > >>> click it > >>> 5) Add a popup to the link to the nightly build so folks must agree > >> to the > >>> disclaimers. > >>> > >>> I recommend that we just do #1 and move on. We've got plenty of > >> other > >>> things to work on. > >>> > >>> My 2 cents, > >>> -Alex > >>> > >>> [1] > >>> > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.apache.org%2Fthread.html%2F8564ab5687c631bd4961bf8b987a5e9d30d6673d5050f72b8a9aaa53%40%253Cdev.royale.apache.org%253E&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C3069e9eec31c4fc643fd08d7526e02de%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637068504849942445&sdata=2LPwIowIFGZmQ%2FzCMYeq8xPcXKJKBQPPkqpX41U3V40%3D&reserved=0 > >>> > >>> On 10/16/19, 7:08 AM, "Josh Tynjala" <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hopefully a separate public page is allowed. What a ridiculous > >> policy! > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Josh Tynjala > >>> Bowler Hat LLC < > >>> > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbowlerhat.dev&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C3069e9eec31c4fc643fd08d7526e02de%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637068504849942445&sdata=NquMJTtJe9gbR1%2FnBTzhxcviBJ4YJP1gwF6vSXMBzSE%3D&reserved=0 > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 6:30 AM Andrew Wetmore < > >> [email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Can they have their own dedicated page, wreathed around with > >>> cautions and > >>>> disclaimers to scare away folks who should not be using them? > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 9:42 AM Carlos Rovira < > >>> [email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> we get request to remove Nightly builds from download page > >> (see > >>> issue in > >>>>> GitHub below). > >>>>> I open this thread to discuss where is better place for it. > >>>>> > >>>>> thanks > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> El mié., 16 oct. 2019 a las 14:26, GitBox (<[email protected]>) > >>> escribió: > >>>>> > >>>>>> carlosrovira commented on issue #498: Nightly builds must > >> not be > >>>> promoted > >>>>>> on download pages > >>>>>> URL: > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fapache%2Froyale-asjs%2Fissues%2F498%23issuecomment-542675010&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C3069e9eec31c4fc643fd08d7526e02de%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637068504849942445&sdata=Z6dNjKh0aqBGikhqbsyBdU4vjPWVmU5WVbjttchDqv0%3D&reserved=0 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I searched to the place in our mailing list that seems > >> to be > >>> the > >>>>> source > >>>>>> of the actual state for nightly on download page: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com%2FNeed-help-with-CSS-class-selector-font-family-is-always-Arial-tp1418p1485.html&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C3069e9eec31c4fc643fd08d7526e02de%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637068504849942445&sdata=E%2FKOMhp%2BiAXYz0J4x6OirDdMrygkD5vIzxyrfDI8aWc%3D&reserved=0 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I think If we want to change it we need to discuss in > >> list > >>> how we > >>>> want > >>>>>> it now > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service. > >>>>>> To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use > >> the > >>>>>> URL above to go to the specific comment. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> For queries about this service, please contact > >> Infrastructure at: > >>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> With regards, > >>>>>> Apache Git Services > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Carlos Rovira > >>>>> > >>> > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C3069e9eec31c4fc643fd08d7526e02de%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637068504849952441&sdata=lSw72rs2eai5YLdYdlkNczbbOARD8OrWrvHh5WVCAfA%3D&reserved=0 > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Andrew Wetmore > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14.blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C3069e9eec31c4fc643fd08d7526e02de%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637068504849952441&sdata=kbtpYHjg2iy8yLowfz0EGQ7qWv3e5%2BWt7cLn7qGw5cs%3D&reserved=0 > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Carlos Rovira > >> > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C3069e9eec31c4fc643fd08d7526e02de%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637068504849952441&sdata=lSw72rs2eai5YLdYdlkNczbbOARD8OrWrvHh5WVCAfA%3D&reserved=0 > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Carlos Rovira > > http://about.me/carlosrovira > > -- Carlos Rovira http://about.me/carlosrovira
