Updated with your suggestion Harbs: https://royale.codeoscopic.com/download/



El mié., 16 oct. 2019 a las 21:44, Harbs (<[email protected]>) escribió:

> I think we should add a section to the download page about nightly builds.
> Someone who is looking for the nightly builds might not know where to find
> it.
>
> Something like:
>
> We do not recommend nightly builds for application developers as they have
> not been properly tested and can have serious bugs. Nightly builds are
> useful if you want to get involved in framework development are are
> prepared to work with bleeding edge code. Source code and nightly build
> download links can be found on our “get involved” page[link].
>
> Harbs
>
> > On Oct 16, 2019, at 10:36 PM, Carlos Rovira <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I did it in pre:
> >
> > https://royale.codeoscopic.com/download/
> > https://royale.codeoscopic.com/get-involved/
> >
> > will push it tomorrow if nobody suggest any other change
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> >
> > El mié., 16 oct. 2019 a las 21:27, Alex Harui (<[email protected]
> >)
> > escribió:
> >
> >> Sounds ok to me.
> >>
> >> On 10/16/19, 12:21 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>    Hi,
> >>
> >>    thanks all for sharing ideas on how to deal with this issue. For
> what I
> >>    read I like some of them.
> >>
> >>    We already have a "Get Involved" page (most of the time with forget
> we
> >> have
> >>    menu options in the footer bar and top level menu options are only a
> >> subset
> >>    of what we think "most important" for newcomers).
> >>    With that page in mind, I think we have solve the "creation of a new
> >> page".
> >>    We can use that.
> >>
> >>    What I see more easy is then is to move the nightly builds section to
> >> that
> >>    page, so we are done.
> >>
> >>    Let me know what you think.
> >>
> >>    Carlos
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    El mié., 16 oct. 2019 a las 18:38, Alex Harui
> >> (<[email protected]>)
> >>    escribió:
> >>
> >>> The principle behind the policy is not ridiculous.  AIUI, it is
> >> important
> >>> that the general public only downloads artifacts that the PMC has
> >> approved
> >>> as an act of the foundation, otherwise the foundation's ability to
> >> provide
> >>> a legal shield for release managers is weakened.
> >>>
> >>> I mostly agree that the way the word "might" in the policy is being
> >>> interpreted is "ridiculous".  I really don't think the general
> >> public is
> >>> being encouraged to download our nightly builds the way the current
> >> site
> >>> reads.  However, both Justin and I warned about the wording on the
> >> download
> >>> page [1] before it went live because we've seen other projects get
> >>> disrupted by similar nitpicking.  AFAICT, the trend at the ASF is to
> >>> continue to be more restrictive about the word "might" and make it
> >> harder
> >>> to find links to nightly builds on project websites.  Other projects
> >> that
> >>> used to have links or links "below the fold" no longer do when I went
> >>> looking just now.  It won't be worth it to fight it, so let's just
> >> plan on
> >>> changing.
> >>>
> >>> I see other projects with separate pages, but there is always a
> >> chance
> >>> that someday the word "might" will be restricted even more to include
> >>> separate pages.  I'm not making the changes to the site, so I'll
> >> leave it
> >>> up to those who are doing the work to decide.
> >>>
> >>> IMO, with that in mind, when I look at the current site, it is almost
> >>> entirely tuned towards our users.  The only place we invite folks to
> >>> contribute is way down on the landing page.  And the page that takes
> >> you to
> >>> is about mailing lists.  I guess you could say that the GitHub link
> >> is an
> >>> implied indicator that we're an open source project and that you
> >> should
> >>> contribute.
> >>>
> >>> So, here are my ideas.  Feel free to reject them all:
> >>>
> >>> 1) Move the nightly build portion of the download page to a wiki
> >> page in
> >>> GitHub.
> >>> 2) Add a "Get Involved" or "Contributing" menu item similar to what
> >> Harbs
> >>> suggested that goes to a different page like Andrew suggested
> >>> 3) Replace the GitHub menu item with the "Get Involved" or
> >> "Contributing"
> >>> menu item
> >>> 4) Add analytics to the nightly build links so we can see how many
> >> people
> >>> click it
> >>> 5) Add a popup to the link to the nightly build so folks must agree
> >> to the
> >>> disclaimers.
> >>>
> >>> I recommend that we just do #1 and move on.  We've got plenty of
> >> other
> >>> things to work on.
> >>>
> >>> My 2 cents,
> >>> -Alex
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> >>
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> >>>
> >>> On 10/16/19, 7:08 AM, "Josh Tynjala" <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>    Hopefully a separate public page is allowed. What a ridiculous
> >> policy!
> >>>
> >>>    --
> >>>    Josh Tynjala
> >>>    Bowler Hat LLC <
> >>>
> >>
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> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 6:30 AM Andrew Wetmore <
> >> [email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Can they have their own dedicated page, wreathed around with
> >>> cautions and
> >>>> disclaimers to scare away folks who should not be using them?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 9:42 AM Carlos Rovira <
> >>> [email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> we get request to remove Nightly builds from download page
> >> (see
> >>> issue in
> >>>>> GitHub below).
> >>>>> I open this thread to discuss where is better place for it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> El mié., 16 oct. 2019 a las 14:26, GitBox (<[email protected]>)
> >>> escribió:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> carlosrovira commented on issue #498: Nightly builds must
> >> not be
> >>>> promoted
> >>>>>> on download pages
> >>>>>> URL:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   I searched to the place in our mailing list that seems
> >> to be
> >>> the
> >>>>> source
> >>>>>> of the actual state for nightly on download page:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   I think If we want to change it we need to discuss in
> >> list
> >>> how we
> >>>> want
> >>>>>> it now
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Andrew Wetmore
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>    --
> >>    Carlos Rovira
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
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>

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