IIRC, It doesn't have to be 72 hours. It can be more or less depending on how many PMC members vote and when. We have something like 14 PMC members? If we get 8 +1 votes in an hour we could go right then, especially for build tools which our users will probably examine the packages.
For the SDK, even if we got a majority in the first day, I'd hold open for longer in case users do get to try it and find a big bug. Plus, historically, we don't get 8 votes on the SDK in 72 hours, and sometimes not even 3 since it takes longer to examine the packages and test with them, so sometimes the vote stays open longer than 72 hours. -Alex On 4/15/20, 12:05 PM, "Greg Dove" <[email protected]> wrote: Yeah thanks for pointing that out Chris, Justin, I had interpreted it the wrong way also, I had understood it to mean that if the voting threshold passed it means that a 'result can be called'. Maybe we should change the wording of: 'This vote will be open for 72 hours or until a result can be called.' because as someone new to this, that to me does not capture that it should be at least 72 hours - I interpreted it as meaning that 72 hours was the maximum and it could be less than 72 hours if the voting thresholds were crossed (without prior knowledge of the conventions). Just thinking about it, it of course makes sense to allow for a minimum reasonable period of scrutiny in this process. So that is (more) proof that I don't always think about things! On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 9:57 PM Carlos Rovira <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Chris, and Justin, > > thanks for the pointers :) > > Carlos > > > El mié., 15 abr. 2020 a las 11:46, Yishay Weiss (<[email protected]>) > escribió: > > > Hi Chris, > > > > > > > > Greg did vote before I announced the result. Anyway, for good measure, > > let’s wait another 36 hours and see if anyone has objections to the > result. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Christofer Dutz <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:26:50 PM > > *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]> > > *Subject:* Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Royale 1.2.0 > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > Well theoretically for example Greg - who noted he'll be able to do a > > review soon - could theoretically do the review and find something you > > folks didn't. > > So I would suggest to keep the vote open for the 72 hours ... especially > > as you announced the votes to stay open for 72 hours. > > > > Was just jumping in from the side-lines, just in case you just overlooked > > this. > > > > Chris > > > > > > Am 15.04.20, 11:02 schrieb "Carlos Rovira" <[email protected]>: > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > unless this is against some Apache rules the vote thread state this: > > > > "This vote will be open for 72 hours or until a result can be called. > > > > The vote passes if there is: > > - At least 3 +1 votes from the PMC > > - More positive votes than negative votes" > > > > So this seems ok, right? > > > > Thanks > > > > Carlos > > > > > > El mié., 15 abr. 2020 a las 10:47, Yishay Weiss (< > > [email protected]>) > > escribió: > > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > > > I may have made a mistake here, but I thought it was ok since we > had > > > enough +1 votes. As I understood it, that’s a sufficient condition. > > Trying > > > to speed things up, but my apologies if this somehow compromises > > Apache > > > rules. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Yishay > > > > > > From: Christofer Dutz<mailto:[email protected] > > <[email protected]>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 11:31 AM > > > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Royale 1.2.0 > > > > > > Royale not sticking to the typical 72 hour voting timeframe? > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > Am 15.04.20, 10:29 schrieb "Carlos Rovira" < > [email protected] > > >: > > > > > > Hi Yishay, > > > > > > build tools and jburg was never released on its own before. > > Always was > > > part > > > of the global royale release. This is the first time we do > this. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > El mié., 15 abr. 2020 a las 10:21, Yishay Weiss (< > > > [email protected]>) > > > escribió: > > > > > > > I’ve just noticed the subject should be changed to > > > > > > > > [DISCUSS] Release Apache Royale Compiler Build Tools 1.2.0. > > Looks > > > like a > > > > bug in CI step 6. > > > > > > > > Anyway, the vote has passed. I haven’t seen previous > > announcements on > > > > compiler build tools. Has this been done in the past? Can > > anyone > > > point me > > > > to an example? > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > From: Greg Dove<mailto:[email protected] > > <[email protected]>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:27 PM > > > > To: Apache Royale Development<mailto:[email protected] > > <[email protected]>> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Royale 1.2.0 > > > > > > > > fyi I can't get to this until my current EOD, about 12 hours > > from > > > now. I > > > > will remind myself what I need to do and check it then and > > vote, if > > > the > > > > voting is still open (I understand it may not be, as I think > > the > > > threshold > > > > was already passed). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:03 AM Carlos Rovira < > > > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Remember that we have Maven Wrapper [1] in our repo so if > you > > > don't have > > > > > maven installed you can just use "mvnw" (Mac) or "mvnw.cmd" > > (Win) > > > and > > > > that > > > > > will install maven for you :) > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Ftakari%2Fmaven-wrapper&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000578093&sdata=uDerNeNhuUxtsptQwDY%2FDQUofxR%2Bgyn1l8sfSOGY1qQ%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > > > > > El mar., 14 abr. 2020 a las 18:05, Josh Tynjala (< > > > > > [email protected]>) > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > If you're on Windows, and you happened to install Maven > > using the > > > > > > Chocolatey package manager, you may need to tweak the > > > > > ApproveBuildTools.xml > > > > > > file to get it to work. > > > > > > > > > > > > Find this line: > > > > > > > > > > > > <condition property="mvn" value="mvn.cmd"> > > > > > > > > > > > > And change it to this: > > > > > > > > > > > > <condition property="mvn" value="mvn.exe"> > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that most people will be fine, but I just wanted > to > > > mention it. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Josh Tynjala > > > > > > Bowler Hat LLC <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbowlerhat.dev%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000578093&sdata=A3YoD0DFHo8CUFfB4AaoEAdLurbS8WWoPBm1X002sDQ%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:33 PM < > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the discussion thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Yishay Weiss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Carlos Rovira > > > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000578093&sdata=oIusvHGluUv6EXxMoazn1UBidrarvpD16XBYMkdghhk%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Carlos Rovira > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000578093&sdata=oIusvHGluUv6EXxMoazn1UBidrarvpD16XBYMkdghhk%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Carlos Rovira > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000578093&sdata=oIusvHGluUv6EXxMoazn1UBidrarvpD16XBYMkdghhk%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > *From: *Christofer Dutz <[email protected]> > > *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:34 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Royale 1.2.0 > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > Well theoretically for example Greg - who noted he'll be able to do a > > review soon - could theoretically do the review and find something you > > folks didn't. > > So I would suggest to keep the vote open for the 72 hours ... especially > > as you announced the votes to stay open for 72 hours. > > > > Was just jumping in from the side-lines, just in case you just overlooked > > this. > > > > Chris > > > > > > Am 15.04.20, 11:02 schrieb "Carlos Rovira" <[email protected]>: > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > unless this is against some Apache rules the vote thread state this: > > > > "This vote will be open for 72 hours or until a result can be called. > > > > The vote passes if there is: > > - At least 3 +1 votes from the PMC > > - More positive votes than negative votes" > > > > So this seems ok, right? > > > > Thanks > > > > Carlos > > > > > > El mié., 15 abr. 2020 a las 10:47, Yishay Weiss (< > > [email protected]>) > > escribió: > > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > > > I may have made a mistake here, but I thought it was ok since we > had > > > enough +1 votes. As I understood it, that’s a sufficient condition. > > Trying > > > to speed things up, but my apologies if this somehow compromises > > Apache > > > rules. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Yishay > > > > > > From: Christofer Dutz<mailto:[email protected] > > <[email protected]>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 11:31 AM > > > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Royale 1.2.0 > > > > > > Royale not sticking to the typical 72 hour voting timeframe? > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > Am 15.04.20, 10:29 schrieb "Carlos Rovira" < > [email protected] > > >: > > > > > > Hi Yishay, > > > > > > build tools and jburg was never released on its own before. > > Always was > > > part > > > of the global royale release. This is the first time we do > this. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > El mié., 15 abr. 2020 a las 10:21, Yishay Weiss (< > > > [email protected]>) > > > escribió: > > > > > > > I’ve just noticed the subject should be changed to > > > > > > > > [DISCUSS] Release Apache Royale Compiler Build Tools 1.2.0. > > Looks > > > like a > > > > bug in CI step 6. > > > > > > > > Anyway, the vote has passed. I haven’t seen previous > > announcements on > > > > compiler build tools. Has this been done in the past? Can > > anyone > > > point me > > > > to an example? > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > From: Greg Dove<mailto:[email protected] > > <[email protected]>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:27 PM > > > > To: Apache Royale Development<mailto:[email protected] > > <[email protected]>> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Royale 1.2.0 > > > > > > > > fyi I can't get to this until my current EOD, about 12 hours > > from > > > now. I > > > > will remind myself what I need to do and check it then and > > vote, if > > > the > > > > voting is still open (I understand it may not be, as I think > > the > > > threshold > > > > was already passed). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:03 AM Carlos Rovira < > > > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Remember that we have Maven Wrapper [1] in our repo so if > you > > > don't have > > > > > maven installed you can just use "mvnw" (Mac) or "mvnw.cmd" > > (Win) > > > and > > > > that > > > > > will install maven for you :) > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Ftakari%2Fmaven-wrapper&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000588050&sdata=WxrNUCuimTpmAV0J31crKinfDLpXOoncCh0397LwzuY%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > > > > > El mar., 14 abr. 2020 a las 18:05, Josh Tynjala (< > > > > > [email protected]>) > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > If you're on Windows, and you happened to install Maven > > using the > > > > > > Chocolatey package manager, you may need to tweak the > > > > > ApproveBuildTools.xml > > > > > > file to get it to work. > > > > > > > > > > > > Find this line: > > > > > > > > > > > > <condition property="mvn" value="mvn.cmd"> > > > > > > > > > > > > And change it to this: > > > > > > > > > > > > <condition property="mvn" value="mvn.exe"> > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that most people will be fine, but I just wanted > to > > > mention it. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Josh Tynjala > > > > > > Bowler Hat LLC <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbowlerhat.dev%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000588050&sdata=tDC2LikbjchcW3yIBM9UDEcapExDU8IAgtySTxVwvIw%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:33 PM < > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the discussion thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Yishay Weiss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Carlos Rovira > > > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000588050&sdata=OrkH8SvfMk97ZI6hXKCxVhgcPYqivoWz2ztUU7iVVxQ%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Carlos Rovira > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000588050&sdata=OrkH8SvfMk97ZI6hXKCxVhgcPYqivoWz2ztUU7iVVxQ%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Carlos Rovira > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000588050&sdata=OrkH8SvfMk97ZI6hXKCxVhgcPYqivoWz2ztUU7iVVxQ%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Carlos Rovira > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000588050&sdata=OrkH8SvfMk97ZI6hXKCxVhgcPYqivoWz2ztUU7iVVxQ%3D&reserved=0 >
