FWIW, “shall” (which is used elsewhere on the release policy page) is also a mandate which cannot be violated, but “should” is not.[1][2]
[1]https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/shall <https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/shall> [2]https://english.stackexchange.com/a/16468 > On Apr 15, 2020, at 11:42 PM, Harbs <[email protected]> wrote: > > The policy is worded as "SHOULD remain open for 72 hours". It’s not “MUST” > (which would be a complete blocker).[1] > > If there are any -1 votes (which I seriously doubt there will be), we can > always recall the release if objections are deemed serious enough. > > The only practical purpose of this release is to release Royale 0.9.7 and by > the time that release is voted on, the 72 hours will be over anyway. > > I think Yishay can continue with the Royale release process. > > My $0.02, > Harbs > > [1]https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-approval > <https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-approval> > >> On Apr 15, 2020, at 11:29 PM, Alex Harui <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> IIRC, It doesn't have to be 72 hours. It can be more or less depending on >> how many PMC members vote and when. We have something like 14 PMC members? >> If we get 8 +1 votes in an hour we could go right then, especially for build >> tools which our users will probably examine the packages. >> >> For the SDK, even if we got a majority in the first day, I'd hold open for >> longer in case users do get to try it and find a big bug. Plus, >> historically, we don't get 8 votes on the SDK in 72 hours, and sometimes not >> even 3 since it takes longer to examine the packages and test with them, so >> sometimes the vote stays open longer than 72 hours. >> >> -Alex >> >> On 4/15/20, 12:05 PM, "Greg Dove" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Yeah thanks for pointing that out Chris, Justin, I had interpreted it the >> wrong way also, I had understood it to mean that if the voting threshold >> passed it means that a 'result can be called'. >> >> Maybe we should change the wording of: >> 'This vote will be open for 72 hours or until a result can be called.' >> because as someone new to this, that to me does not capture that it should >> be at least 72 hours - I interpreted it as meaning that 72 hours was the >> maximum and it could be less than 72 hours if the voting thresholds were >> crossed (without prior knowledge of the conventions). Just thinking about >> it, it of course makes sense to allow for a minimum reasonable period of >> scrutiny in this process. So that is (more) proof that I don't always >> think >> about things! >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 9:57 PM Carlos Rovira <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Chris, and Justin, >>> >>> thanks for the pointers :) >>> >>> Carlos >>> >>> >>> El mié., 15 abr. 2020 a las 11:46, Yishay Weiss (<[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>) >>> escribió: >>> >>>> Hi Chris, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Greg did vote before I announced the result. Anyway, for good measure, >>>> let’s wait another 36 hours and see if anyone has objections to the >>> result. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Christofer Dutz <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:26:50 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Royale 1.2.0 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Well theoretically for example Greg - who noted he'll be able to do a >>>> review soon - could theoretically do the review and find something you >>>> folks didn't. >>>> So I would suggest to keep the vote open for the 72 hours ... especially >>>> as you announced the votes to stay open for 72 hours. >>>> >>>> Was just jumping in from the side-lines, just in case you just overlooked >>>> this. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 15.04.20, 11:02 schrieb "Carlos Rovira" <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>> >>>> Hi Chris, >>>> >>>> unless this is against some Apache rules the vote thread state this: >>>> >>>> "This vote will be open for 72 hours or until a result can be called. >>>> >>>> The vote passes if there is: >>>> - At least 3 +1 votes from the PMC >>>> - More positive votes than negative votes" >>>> >>>> So this seems ok, right? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Carlos >>>> >>>> >>>> El mié., 15 abr. 2020 a las 10:47, Yishay Weiss (< >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>) >>>> escribió: >>>> >>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>> >>>>> I may have made a mistake here, but I thought it was ok since we >>> had >>>>> enough +1 votes. As I understood it, that’s a sufficient condition. >>>> Trying >>>>> to speed things up, but my apologies if this somehow compromises >>>> Apache >>>>> rules. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Yishay >>>>> >>>>> From: Christofer Dutz<mailto:[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 11:31 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Royale 1.2.0 >>>>> >>>>> Royale not sticking to the typical 72 hour voting timeframe? >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> Am 15.04.20, 10:29 schrieb "Carlos Rovira" < >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> : >>>>> >>>>> Hi Yishay, >>>>> >>>>> build tools and jburg was never released on its own before. >>>> Always was >>>>> part >>>>> of the global royale release. This is the first time we do >>> this. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> El mié., 15 abr. 2020 a las 10:21, Yishay Weiss (< >>>>> [email protected]>) >>>>> escribió: >>>>> >>>>>> I’ve just noticed the subject should be changed to >>>>>> >>>>>> [DISCUSS] Release Apache Royale Compiler Build Tools 1.2.0. >>>> Looks >>>>> like a >>>>>> bug in CI step 6. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, the vote has passed. I haven’t seen previous >>>> announcements on >>>>>> compiler build tools. Has this been done in the past? Can >>>> anyone >>>>> point me >>>>>> to an example? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Greg Dove<mailto:[email protected] >>>> <[email protected]>> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:27 PM >>>>>> To: Apache Royale Development<mailto:[email protected] >>>> <[email protected]>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Royale 1.2.0 >>>>>> >>>>>> fyi I can't get to this until my current EOD, about 12 hours >>>> from >>>>> now. I >>>>>> will remind myself what I need to do and check it then and >>>> vote, if >>>>> the >>>>>> voting is still open (I understand it may not be, as I think >>>> the >>>>> threshold >>>>>> was already passed). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:03 AM Carlos Rovira < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Remember that we have Maven Wrapper [1] in our repo so if >>> you >>>>> don't have >>>>>>> maven installed you can just use "mvnw" (Mac) or "mvnw.cmd" >>>> (Win) >>>>> and >>>>>> that >>>>>>> will install maven for you :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Ftakari%2Fmaven-wrapper&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000578093&sdata=uDerNeNhuUxtsptQwDY%2FDQUofxR%2Bgyn1l8sfSOGY1qQ%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Ftakari%2Fmaven-wrapper&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000578093&sdata=uDerNeNhuUxtsptQwDY%2FDQUofxR%2Bgyn1l8sfSOGY1qQ%3D&reserved=0> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> El mar., 14 abr. 2020 a las 18:05, Josh Tynjala (< >>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>) >>>>>>> escribió: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you're on Windows, and you happened to install Maven >>>> using the >>>>>>>> Chocolatey package manager, you may need to tweak the >>>>>>> ApproveBuildTools.xml >>>>>>>> file to get it to work. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Find this line: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <condition property="mvn" value="mvn.cmd"> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And change it to this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <condition property="mvn" value="mvn.exe"> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think that most people will be fine, but I just wanted >>> to >>>>> mention it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Josh Tynjala >>>>>>>> Bowler Hat LLC >>>>>>>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbowlerhat.dev%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000578093&sdata=A3YoD0DFHo8CUFfB4AaoEAdLurbS8WWoPBm1X002sDQ%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbowlerhat.dev%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000578093&sdata=A3YoD0DFHo8CUFfB4AaoEAdLurbS8WWoPBm1X002sDQ%3D&reserved=0>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:33 PM < >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is the discussion thread. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Yishay Weiss >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Carlos Rovira >>>>>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000578093&sdata=oIusvHGluUv6EXxMoazn1UBidrarvpD16XBYMkdghhk%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000578093&sdata=oIusvHGluUv6EXxMoazn1UBidrarvpD16XBYMkdghhk%3D&reserved=0> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Carlos Rovira >>>>> >>>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000578093&sdata=oIusvHGluUv6EXxMoazn1UBidrarvpD16XBYMkdghhk%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> >>>>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000578093&sdata=oIusvHGluUv6EXxMoazn1UBidrarvpD16XBYMkdghhk%3D&reserved=0> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Carlos Rovira >>>> >>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000578093&sdata=oIusvHGluUv6EXxMoazn1UBidrarvpD16XBYMkdghhk%3D&reserved=0 >>>> >>>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000578093&sdata=oIusvHGluUv6EXxMoazn1UBidrarvpD16XBYMkdghhk%3D&reserved=0> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From: *Christofer Dutz <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:34 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Royale 1.2.0 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Well theoretically for example Greg - who noted he'll be able to do a >>>> review soon - could theoretically do the review and find something you >>>> folks didn't. >>>> So I would suggest to keep the vote open for the 72 hours ... especially >>>> as you announced the votes to stay open for 72 hours. >>>> >>>> Was just jumping in from the side-lines, just in case you just overlooked >>>> this. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 15.04.20, 11:02 schrieb "Carlos Rovira" <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>> >>>> Hi Chris, >>>> >>>> unless this is against some Apache rules the vote thread state this: >>>> >>>> "This vote will be open for 72 hours or until a result can be called. >>>> >>>> The vote passes if there is: >>>> - At least 3 +1 votes from the PMC >>>> - More positive votes than negative votes" >>>> >>>> So this seems ok, right? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Carlos >>>> >>>> >>>> El mié., 15 abr. 2020 a las 10:47, Yishay Weiss (< >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>) >>>> escribió: >>>> >>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>> >>>>> I may have made a mistake here, but I thought it was ok since we >>> had >>>>> enough +1 votes. As I understood it, that’s a sufficient condition. >>>> Trying >>>>> to speed things up, but my apologies if this somehow compromises >>>> Apache >>>>> rules. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Yishay >>>>> >>>>> From: Christofer Dutz<mailto:[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 11:31 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Royale 1.2.0 >>>>> >>>>> Royale not sticking to the typical 72 hour voting timeframe? >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> Am 15.04.20, 10:29 schrieb "Carlos Rovira" < >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> : >>>>> >>>>> Hi Yishay, >>>>> >>>>> build tools and jburg was never released on its own before. >>>> Always was >>>>> part >>>>> of the global royale release. This is the first time we do >>> this. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> El mié., 15 abr. 2020 a las 10:21, Yishay Weiss (< >>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>) >>>>> escribió: >>>>> >>>>>> I’ve just noticed the subject should be changed to >>>>>> >>>>>> [DISCUSS] Release Apache Royale Compiler Build Tools 1.2.0. >>>> Looks >>>>> like a >>>>>> bug in CI step 6. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, the vote has passed. I haven’t seen previous >>>> announcements on >>>>>> compiler build tools. Has this been done in the past? Can >>>> anyone >>>>> point me >>>>>> to an example? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Greg Dove<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:27 PM >>>>>> To: Apache Royale Development<mailto:[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Royale 1.2.0 >>>>>> >>>>>> fyi I can't get to this until my current EOD, about 12 hours >>>> from >>>>> now. I >>>>>> will remind myself what I need to do and check it then and >>>> vote, if >>>>> the >>>>>> voting is still open (I understand it may not be, as I think >>>> the >>>>> threshold >>>>>> was already passed). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:03 AM Carlos Rovira < >>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Remember that we have Maven Wrapper [1] in our repo so if >>> you >>>>> don't have >>>>>>> maven installed you can just use "mvnw" (Mac) or "mvnw.cmd" >>>> (Win) >>>>> and >>>>>> that >>>>>>> will install maven for you :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Ftakari%2Fmaven-wrapper&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C9c206639e12e47a976c208d7e16fe453%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637225743000588050&sdata=WxrNUCuimTpmAV0J31crKinfDLpXOoncCh0397LwzuY%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 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