On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 1:12 AM Piotr Zarzycki <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have created new mailing list called: [email protected] - > If everything works out I will start playing with redirection all builds > stuff there. It looks like my request has to be processed and it can take > 24h. > That looks good. Thanks for powering through this, Piotr! > > śr., 27 maj 2020 o 10:00 Piotr Zarzycki <[email protected]> > napisał(a): > > > I see that we have list [email protected] - Anyone know why I > > cannot subscribe to it ? > > > > śr., 20 maj 2020 o 10:05 Piotr Zarzycki <[email protected]> > > napisał(a): > > > >> Ok I noticed that we have notifications list, but it seems to me that it > >> is empty. I will redirect one of the build there and see if it works. > [1] > >> > >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/[email protected] > >> > >> wt., 19 maj 2020 o 10:17 Piotr Zarzycki <[email protected]> > >> napisał(a): > >> > >>> My proposition is "notifications" - Any objections ? > >>> > >>> niedz., 17 maj 2020 o 10:05 Piotr Zarzycki <[email protected]> > >>> napisał(a): > >>> > >>>> It's been stronger suggested to create for that purpose separate > >>>> mailing list. [1] I'm willing to do that - What would be the name ? > >>>> > >>>> [1] https://bit.ly/3fWdide > >>>> > >>>> sob., 25 kwi 2020 o 12:11 Piotr Zarzycki <[email protected]> > >>>> napisał(a): > >>>> > >>>>> Hi Guys, > >>>>> > >>>>> Email is still rejected. I'm going to comment in raised jira that we > >>>>> would like to redirect our messages to commits . I don't see in the > >>>>> comments of jira concrete solution and when to execute them - they > are > >>>>> mention about some config - If someone know where I should look I > will > >>>>> otherwise I'm going to raise again discussion in jira. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Piotr > >>>>> > >>>>> czw., 23 kwi 2020 o 08:40 Alex Harui <[email protected]> > >>>>> napisał(a): > >>>>> > >>>>>> I got a strange text this evening. It had a long string of numbers > >>>>>> and the word "Google" at the end. No other identifying words. So > I just > >>>>>> deleted it thinking it was spam. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Anyway, I RDP'd to the CI Server and used the Chrome Browser to > >>>>>> login. It did not ask for a code for my phone, but Google said > that it was > >>>>>> a new device. Maybe I used FF last time from the CI Server. It is > >>>>>> probably best if you use the CI Server to get to the gmail for the > server. > >>>>>> That way I don't have to authenticate every PMC member from their > >>>>>> location. I left Chrome up with Gmail. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> HTH, > >>>>>> -Alex > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 4/22/20, 11:25 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <[email protected]> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> When google remember your devices you do not need to use anymore > >>>>>> 2 factor > >>>>>> authentication. It's failed cause when it ask me to input google > >>>>>> code from > >>>>>> message send on the number attached to account - I wasn't able > so > >>>>>> it failed > >>>>>> after some time of waiting. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> czw., 23 kwi 2020 o 08:21 Alex Harui <[email protected]> > >>>>>> napisał(a): > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I just logged in without needing my phone. I also got a > notice > >>>>>> that they > >>>>>> > saw a failed login attempt from your location. Are you sure > >>>>>> you used the > >>>>>> > right password? The email password is not the same as Jenkins > >>>>>> and RDP. It > >>>>>> > is in private@ in January of 2020. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > -Alex > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > On 4/22/20, 10:39 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" < > >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Email has 2 Factor authentication on, so I cannot login to > >>>>>> it unless > >>>>>> > someone with added number allows me ;) > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > czw., 23 kwi 2020 o 07:13 Alex Harui > >>>>>> <[email protected]> > >>>>>> > napisał(a): > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > I hope I posted the Gmail credentials on private@, so > >>>>>> you can login > >>>>>> > and > >>>>>> > > look there. But also, the email won't make it to the > >>>>>> list. > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > -Alex > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > On 4/22/20, 9:19 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" < > >>>>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > If I redirect emails to commits etc. How would I > know > >>>>>> that > >>>>>> > Jenkins got > >>>>>> > > rejection? Do I get this info in Jenkins web console > >>>>>> interface > >>>>>> > somehow? > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 6:37 PM Alex Harui > >>>>>> > <[email protected]> > >>>>>> > > wrote: > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > Pretty sure I tried allowing CI Server and Infra > >>>>>> would have > >>>>>> > > suggested that > >>>>>> > > > as well. You are welcome to try it maybe on > >>>>>> Royale-asjs since > >>>>>> > it is > >>>>>> > > > failing a lot right now. > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > -Alex > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > On 4/21/20, 12:01 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" < > >>>>>> > [email protected]> > >>>>>> > > wrote: > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > Alex, > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > Yes problem is solvable - redirect email not > to > >>>>>> dev but to > >>>>>> > > commits or > >>>>>> > > > other > >>>>>> > > > email which we have available - This is the > >>>>>> solution. > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > If I'm new to the list and subscribing here - > >>>>>> seeing tons > >>>>>> > of > >>>>>> > > weird > >>>>>> > > > emails > >>>>>> > > > instead of emails about concrete subject - I > >>>>>> would > >>>>>> > unsubscribe in > >>>>>> > > > about 1 > >>>>>> > > > day max. - I wouldn't care that I can make a > >>>>>> filter on my > >>>>>> > inbox, > >>>>>> > > cause > >>>>>> > > > I > >>>>>> > > > have for example 100 filters already. If I > look > >>>>>> into the > >>>>>> > archive > >>>>>> > > I > >>>>>> > > > really > >>>>>> > > > cannot read it, cause mailing list is > >>>>>> obfuscated by stuff > >>>>>> > which > >>>>>> > > uses > >>>>>> > > > by PMC > >>>>>> > > > and committers - If you are PMC or committer > >>>>>> and care about > >>>>>> > > stuff you > >>>>>> > > > will > >>>>>> > > > subscribe for another list. > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > Thanks, > >>>>>> > > > Piotr > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > wt., 21 kwi 2020 o 08:44 Alex Harui > >>>>>> > <[email protected]> > >>>>>> > > > napisał(a): > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > I have a few minutes waiting for step 11 to > >>>>>> finish so > >>>>>> > have > >>>>>> > > some time > >>>>>> > > > to > >>>>>> > > > > think about this more. > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > My understanding is that we would need to > >>>>>> send from an > >>>>>> > a.o > >>>>>> > > email > >>>>>> > > > address > >>>>>> > > > > to have it end up on commits@. I don't > know > >>>>>> how to do > >>>>>> > that > >>>>>> > > on a > >>>>>> > > > shared > >>>>>> > > > > machine. > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > Maybe we should agree on what the problem is > >>>>>> before > >>>>>> > looking for > >>>>>> > > > > solutions. To me, the problem seems mostly > >>>>>> unsolvable. > >>>>>> > As a > >>>>>> > > PMC > >>>>>> > > > member > >>>>>> > > > > you are supposed to be watching the commits, > >>>>>> and as a > >>>>>> > > committer, you > >>>>>> > > > need > >>>>>> > > > > to know if you broke the build, and as a > >>>>>> community > >>>>>> > member, you > >>>>>> > > > should help > >>>>>> > > > > fix the build even if you didn't break it. > >>>>>> Moving CI > >>>>>> > emails > >>>>>> > > out of > >>>>>> > > > your > >>>>>> > > > > inbox via another list or a filter certainly > >>>>>> will save > >>>>>> > you > >>>>>> > > time, but > >>>>>> > > > > doesn't seem fair to others. Because if you > >>>>>> aren't > >>>>>> > doing your > >>>>>> > > share > >>>>>> > > > of > >>>>>> > > > > commit reviews, or if you don't see right > >>>>>> away that you > >>>>>> > might > >>>>>> > > have > >>>>>> > > > broken > >>>>>> > > > > the build then others have more work to do > or > >>>>>> can't get > >>>>>> > their > >>>>>> > > work > >>>>>> > > > done. > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > And if we were a busier project, we might > >>>>>> have rules on > >>>>>> > > whether you > >>>>>> > > > can > >>>>>> > > > > commit while the build is broken or not so > as > >>>>>> not to > >>>>>> > make it > >>>>>> > > harder > >>>>>> > > > for the > >>>>>> > > > > person trying to fix the build to fix it. > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > But meanwhile, there are a lot of emails > that > >>>>>> you don't > >>>>>> > really > >>>>>> > > need > >>>>>> > > > to > >>>>>> > > > > read. How can anyone know which ones to > read > >>>>>> and which > >>>>>> > ones > >>>>>> > > can be > >>>>>> > > > > skipped? And what tools can be used to make > >>>>>> that > >>>>>> > happen? Are > >>>>>> > > there > >>>>>> > > > email > >>>>>> > > > > tools that can tell if someone is working on > >>>>>> a broken > >>>>>> > build? > >>>>>> > > Can > >>>>>> > > > Jenkins > >>>>>> > > > > tell us more in each failure message so you > >>>>>> can filter > >>>>>> > out a > >>>>>> > > series > >>>>>> > > > of > >>>>>> > > > > broken build emails? Maybe that's what we > >>>>>> should be > >>>>>> > figuring > >>>>>> > > out. > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > My 2 cents, > >>>>>> > > > > -Alex > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > On 4/20/20, 11:21 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" < > >>>>>> > > [email protected]> > >>>>>> > > > wrote: > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > It's end up with using Dev, so I would > >>>>>> like to get > >>>>>> > back to > >>>>>> > > idea > >>>>>> > > > of > >>>>>> > > > > having > >>>>>> > > > > either separate mailing list or sending > >>>>>> that to > >>>>>> > > > [email protected] - > >>>>>> > > > > Your > >>>>>> > > > > last comments indicates that email was > >>>>>> still > >>>>>> > rejected - Is > >>>>>> > > it > >>>>>> > > > still the > >>>>>> > > > > case ? > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > wt., 21 kwi 2020 o 00:43 Alex Harui > >>>>>> > > <[email protected]> > >>>>>> > > > > napisał(a): > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > I already asked. See: INFRA-15722 > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > On 4/20/20, 2:45 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" > < > >>>>>> > > > [email protected]> > >>>>>> > > > > wrote: > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > To me argument of having info that > >>>>>> server > >>>>>> > failed vs > >>>>>> > > have > >>>>>> > > > cleaned > >>>>>> > > > > inbox > >>>>>> > > > > > finally - I'm choosing to have > >>>>>> inbox cleaned. > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > If Apache rejected email from > >>>>>> Jenkins on > >>>>>> > commits@ I > >>>>>> > > can > >>>>>> > > > ask > >>>>>> > > > > infra > >>>>>> > > > > > what can > >>>>>> > > > > > be done. > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 10:43 PM > Alex > >>>>>> Harui > >>>>>> > > > > <[email protected]> > >>>>>> > > > > > wrote: > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > I've been unable to get the CI > >>>>>> server to > >>>>>> > send to > >>>>>> > > commits@ > >>>>>> > > > . > >>>>>> > > > > Apache > >>>>>> > > > > > blocks > >>>>>> > > > > > > it. > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > Maybe issues@, but these aren't > >>>>>> about > >>>>>> > issues. > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > IMO, the point of these Jenkins > >>>>>> emails is so > >>>>>> > that > >>>>>> > > all > >>>>>> > > > > committers > >>>>>> > > > > > know the > >>>>>> > > > > > > current state of the builds and > >>>>>> help fix > >>>>>> > issues > >>>>>> > > when > >>>>>> > > > > possible. My > >>>>>> > > > > > concern > >>>>>> > > > > > > is that when committers start > >>>>>> filtering CI > >>>>>> > emails > >>>>>> > > they > >>>>>> > > > will > >>>>>> > > > > miss > >>>>>> > > > > > when one > >>>>>> > > > > > > of their commits breaks the > >>>>>> build. So, the > >>>>>> > only > >>>>>> > > reason > >>>>>> > > > to > >>>>>> > > > > split CI > >>>>>> > > > > > emails > >>>>>> > > > > > > off this list is to reduce > >>>>>> traffic to the > >>>>>> > > non-committers. > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > My 2 cents, > >>>>>> > > > > > > -Alex > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > On 4/20/20, 1:17 PM, "OmPrakash > >>>>>> Muppirala" < > >>>>>> > > > > [email protected]> > >>>>>> > > > > > wrote: > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > We already have issues@ and > >>>>>> commits@. > >>>>>> > Can we > >>>>>> > > > redirect the > >>>>>> > > > > > emails to > >>>>>> > > > > > > one of > >>>>>> > > > > > > the lists? > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at > 11:54 > >>>>>> AM Alex > >>>>>> > Harui > >>>>>> > > > > > <[email protected]> > >>>>>> > > > > > > wrote: > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > IMO, if we do create a new > >>>>>> list, all > >>>>>> > > committers > >>>>>> > > > must be > >>>>>> > > > > > subscribed. > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > My 2 cents, > >>>>>> > > > > > > > -Alex > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > On 4/20/20, 1:53 AM, > "Piotr > >>>>>> Zarzycki" < > >>>>>> > > > > > [email protected]> > >>>>>> > > > > > > wrote: > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > In the last year or so > >>>>>> all > >>>>>> > notifications > >>>>>> > > from > >>>>>> > > > Jenkins > >>>>>> > > > > > build are > >>>>>> > > > > > > going > >>>>>> > > > > > > > to > >>>>>> > > > > > > > development mailing > >>>>>> list. It > >>>>>> > becomes very > >>>>>> > > > messy I see > >>>>>> > > > > > every day > >>>>>> > > > > > > 40-50 > >>>>>> > > > > > > > emails where 80% of > >>>>>> that is > >>>>>> > notification > >>>>>> > > from > >>>>>> > > > > Jenkins. > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > I would like to > propose > >>>>>> create > >>>>>> > separate > >>>>>> > > > mailing list > >>>>>> > > > > to > >>>>>> > > > > > have such > >>>>>> > > > > > > > notifications there. > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > Is it possible? > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > Please share your > >>>>>> thoughts on that > >>>>>> > > subject. > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > Thanks, > >>>>>> > > > > > > > -- > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > Piotr Zarzycki > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > 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