My proposition is "notifications" - Any objections ? niedz., 17 maj 2020 o 10:05 Piotr Zarzycki <[email protected]> napisał(a):
> It's been stronger suggested to create for that purpose separate mailing > list. [1] I'm willing to do that - What would be the name ? > > [1] https://bit.ly/3fWdide > > sob., 25 kwi 2020 o 12:11 Piotr Zarzycki <[email protected]> > napisał(a): > >> Hi Guys, >> >> Email is still rejected. I'm going to comment in raised jira that we >> would like to redirect our messages to commits . I don't see in the >> comments of jira concrete solution and when to execute them - they are >> mention about some config - If someone know where I should look I will >> otherwise I'm going to raise again discussion in jira. >> >> Thanks, >> Piotr >> >> czw., 23 kwi 2020 o 08:40 Alex Harui <[email protected]> >> napisał(a): >> >>> I got a strange text this evening. It had a long string of numbers and >>> the word "Google" at the end. No other identifying words. So I just >>> deleted it thinking it was spam. >>> >>> Anyway, I RDP'd to the CI Server and used the Chrome Browser to login. >>> It did not ask for a code for my phone, but Google said that it was a new >>> device. Maybe I used FF last time from the CI Server. It is probably best >>> if you use the CI Server to get to the gmail for the server. That way I >>> don't have to authenticate every PMC member from their location. I left >>> Chrome up with Gmail. >>> >>> HTH, >>> -Alex >>> >>> On 4/22/20, 11:25 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> When google remember your devices you do not need to use anymore 2 >>> factor >>> authentication. It's failed cause when it ask me to input google >>> code from >>> message send on the number attached to account - I wasn't able so it >>> failed >>> after some time of waiting. >>> >>> czw., 23 kwi 2020 o 08:21 Alex Harui <[email protected]> >>> napisał(a): >>> >>> > I just logged in without needing my phone. I also got a notice >>> that they >>> > saw a failed login attempt from your location. Are you sure you >>> used the >>> > right password? The email password is not the same as Jenkins and >>> RDP. It >>> > is in private@ in January of 2020. >>> > >>> > -Alex >>> > >>> > On 4/22/20, 10:39 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Email has 2 Factor authentication on, so I cannot login to it >>> unless >>> > someone with added number allows me ;) >>> > >>> > czw., 23 kwi 2020 o 07:13 Alex Harui <[email protected] >>> > >>> > napisał(a): >>> > >>> > > I hope I posted the Gmail credentials on private@, so you >>> can login >>> > and >>> > > look there. But also, the email won't make it to the list. >>> > > >>> > > -Alex >>> > > >>> > > On 4/22/20, 9:19 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" < >>> [email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > If I redirect emails to commits etc. How would I know >>> that >>> > Jenkins got >>> > > rejection? Do I get this info in Jenkins web console >>> interface >>> > somehow? >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 6:37 PM Alex Harui >>> > <[email protected]> >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > Pretty sure I tried allowing CI Server and Infra would >>> have >>> > > suggested that >>> > > > as well. You are welcome to try it maybe on >>> Royale-asjs since >>> > it is >>> > > > failing a lot right now. >>> > > > >>> > > > -Alex >>> > > > >>> > > > On 4/21/20, 12:01 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" < >>> > [email protected]> >>> > > wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > Alex, >>> > > > >>> > > > Yes problem is solvable - redirect email not to >>> dev but to >>> > > commits or >>> > > > other >>> > > > email which we have available - This is the >>> solution. >>> > > > >>> > > > If I'm new to the list and subscribing here - >>> seeing tons >>> > of >>> > > weird >>> > > > emails >>> > > > instead of emails about concrete subject - I would >>> > unsubscribe in >>> > > > about 1 >>> > > > day max. - I wouldn't care that I can make a >>> filter on my >>> > inbox, >>> > > cause >>> > > > I >>> > > > have for example 100 filters already. If I look >>> into the >>> > archive >>> > > I >>> > > > really >>> > > > cannot read it, cause mailing list is obfuscated >>> by stuff >>> > which >>> > > uses >>> > > > by PMC >>> > > > and committers - If you are PMC or committer and >>> care about >>> > > stuff you >>> > > > will >>> > > > subscribe for another list. >>> > > > >>> > > > Thanks, >>> > > > Piotr >>> > > > >>> > > > wt., 21 kwi 2020 o 08:44 Alex Harui >>> > <[email protected]> >>> > > > napisał(a): >>> > > > >>> > > > > I have a few minutes waiting for step 11 to >>> finish so >>> > have >>> > > some time >>> > > > to >>> > > > > think about this more. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > My understanding is that we would need to send >>> from an >>> > a.o >>> > > email >>> > > > address >>> > > > > to have it end up on commits@. I don't know >>> how to do >>> > that >>> > > on a >>> > > > shared >>> > > > > machine. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Maybe we should agree on what the problem is >>> before >>> > looking for >>> > > > > solutions. To me, the problem seems mostly >>> unsolvable. >>> > As a >>> > > PMC >>> > > > member >>> > > > > you are supposed to be watching the commits, and >>> as a >>> > > committer, you >>> > > > need >>> > > > > to know if you broke the build, and as a >>> community >>> > member, you >>> > > > should help >>> > > > > fix the build even if you didn't break it. >>> Moving CI >>> > emails >>> > > out of >>> > > > your >>> > > > > inbox via another list or a filter certainly >>> will save >>> > you >>> > > time, but >>> > > > > doesn't seem fair to others. Because if you >>> aren't >>> > doing your >>> > > share >>> > > > of >>> > > > > commit reviews, or if you don't see right away >>> that you >>> > might >>> > > have >>> > > > broken >>> > > > > the build then others have more work to do or >>> can't get >>> > their >>> > > work >>> > > > done. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > And if we were a busier project, we might have >>> rules on >>> > > whether you >>> > > > can >>> > > > > commit while the build is broken or not so as >>> not to >>> > make it >>> > > harder >>> > > > for the >>> > > > > person trying to fix the build to fix it. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > But meanwhile, there are a lot of emails that >>> you don't >>> > really >>> > > need >>> > > > to >>> > > > > read. How can anyone know which ones to read >>> and which >>> > ones >>> > > can be >>> > > > > skipped? And what tools can be used to make that >>> > happen? Are >>> > > there >>> > > > email >>> > > > > tools that can tell if someone is working on a >>> broken >>> > build? >>> > > Can >>> > > > Jenkins >>> > > > > tell us more in each failure message so you can >>> filter >>> > out a >>> > > series >>> > > > of >>> > > > > broken build emails? Maybe that's what we >>> should be >>> > figuring >>> > > out. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > My 2 cents, >>> > > > > -Alex >>> > > > > >>> > > > > On 4/20/20, 11:21 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" < >>> > > [email protected]> >>> > > > wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > It's end up with using Dev, so I would like >>> to get >>> > back to >>> > > idea >>> > > > of >>> > > > > having >>> > > > > either separate mailing list or sending that >>> to >>> > > > [email protected] - >>> > > > > Your >>> > > > > last comments indicates that email was still >>> > rejected - Is >>> > > it >>> > > > still the >>> > > > > case ? >>> > > > > >>> > > > > wt., 21 kwi 2020 o 00:43 Alex Harui >>> > > <[email protected]> >>> > > > > napisał(a): >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > I already asked. See: INFRA-15722 >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > On 4/20/20, 2:45 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" < >>> > > > [email protected]> >>> > > > > wrote: >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > To me argument of having info that >>> server >>> > failed vs >>> > > have >>> > > > cleaned >>> > > > > inbox >>> > > > > > finally - I'm choosing to have inbox >>> cleaned. >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > If Apache rejected email from Jenkins >>> on >>> > commits@ I >>> > > can >>> > > > ask >>> > > > > infra >>> > > > > > what can >>> > > > > > be done. >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 10:43 PM Alex >>> Harui >>> > > > > <[email protected]> >>> > > > > > wrote: >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > I've been unable to get the CI >>> server to >>> > send to >>> > > commits@ >>> > > > . >>> > > > > Apache >>> > > > > > blocks >>> > > > > > > it. >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Maybe issues@, but these aren't >>> about >>> > issues. >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > IMO, the point of these Jenkins >>> emails is so >>> > that >>> > > all >>> > > > > committers >>> > > > > > know the >>> > > > > > > current state of the builds and help >>> fix >>> > issues >>> > > when >>> > > > > possible. My >>> > > > > > concern >>> > > > > > > is that when committers start >>> filtering CI >>> > emails >>> > > they >>> > > > will >>> > > > > miss >>> > > > > > when one >>> > > > > > > of their commits breaks the build. >>> So, the >>> > only >>> > > reason >>> > > > to >>> > > > > split CI >>> > > > > > emails >>> > > > > > > off this list is to reduce traffic >>> to the >>> > > non-committers. >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > My 2 cents, >>> > > > > > > -Alex >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > On 4/20/20, 1:17 PM, "OmPrakash >>> Muppirala" < >>> > > > > [email protected]> >>> > > > > > wrote: >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > We already have issues@ and >>> commits@. >>> > Can we >>> > > > redirect the >>> > > > > > emails to >>> > > > > > > one of >>> > > > > > > the lists? >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:54 AM >>> Alex >>> > Harui >>> > > > > > <[email protected]> >>> > > > > > > wrote: >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > IMO, if we do create a new >>> list, all >>> > > committers >>> > > > must be >>> > > > > > subscribed. >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > My 2 cents, >>> > > > > > > > -Alex >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > On 4/20/20, 1:53 AM, "Piotr >>> Zarzycki" < >>> > > > > > [email protected]> >>> > > > > > > wrote: >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Hi Guys, >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > In the last year or so all >>> > notifications >>> > > from >>> > > > Jenkins >>> > > > > > build are >>> > > > > > > going >>> > > > > > > > to >>> > > > > > > > development mailing list. >>> It >>> > becomes very >>> > > > messy I see >>> > > > > > every day >>> > > > > > > 40-50 >>> > > > > > > > emails where 80% of that is >>> > notification >>> > > from >>> > > > > Jenkins. >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > I would like to propose >>> create >>> > separate >>> > > > mailing list >>> > > > > to >>> > > > > > have such >>> > > > > > > > notifications there. >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Is it possible? 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