Ok I noticed that we have notifications list, but it seems to me that it is
empty. I will redirect one of the build there and see if it works. [1]

[1] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?notificati...@royale.apache.org

wt., 19 maj 2020 o 10:17 Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
napisał(a):

> My proposition is "notifications" - Any objections ?
>
> niedz., 17 maj 2020 o 10:05 Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> napisał(a):
>
>> It's been stronger suggested to create for that purpose separate mailing
>> list. [1] I'm willing to do that - What would be the name ?
>>
>> [1] https://bit.ly/3fWdide
>>
>> sob., 25 kwi 2020 o 12:11 Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>> napisał(a):
>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> Email is still rejected. I'm going to comment in raised jira that we
>>> would like to redirect our messages to commits . I don't see in the
>>> comments of jira concrete solution and when to execute them - they are
>>> mention about some config - If someone know where I should look I will
>>> otherwise I'm going to raise again discussion in jira.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Piotr
>>>
>>> czw., 23 kwi 2020 o 08:40 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>>> napisał(a):
>>>
>>>> I got a strange text this evening.  It had a long string of numbers and
>>>> the word "Google" at the end.  No other identifying words.  So I just
>>>> deleted it thinking it was spam.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I RDP'd to the CI Server and used the Chrome Browser to login.
>>>> It did not ask for a code for my phone, but Google said that it was a new
>>>> device.  Maybe I used FF last time from the CI Server.  It is probably best
>>>> if you use the CI Server to get to the gmail for the server.  That way I
>>>> don't have to authenticate every PMC member from their location.  I left
>>>> Chrome up with Gmail.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> -Alex
>>>>
>>>> On 4/22/20, 11:25 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     When google remember your devices you do not need to use anymore 2
>>>> factor
>>>>     authentication. It's failed cause when it ask me to input google
>>>> code from
>>>>     message send on the number attached to account - I wasn't able so
>>>> it failed
>>>>     after some time of waiting.
>>>>
>>>>     czw., 23 kwi 2020 o 08:21 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>>>> napisał(a):
>>>>
>>>>     > I just logged in without needing my phone.  I also got a notice
>>>> that they
>>>>     > saw a failed login attempt from your location.  Are you sure you
>>>> used the
>>>>     > right password?  The email password is not the same as Jenkins
>>>> and RDP.  It
>>>>     > is in private@ in January of 2020.
>>>>     >
>>>>     > -Alex
>>>>     >
>>>>     > On 4/22/20, 10:39 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>     >
>>>>     >     Email has 2 Factor authentication on, so I cannot login to it
>>>> unless
>>>>     >     someone with added number allows me ;)
>>>>     >
>>>>     >     czw., 23 kwi 2020 o 07:13 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid
>>>> >
>>>>     > napisał(a):
>>>>     >
>>>>     >     > I hope I posted the Gmail credentials on private@, so you
>>>> can login
>>>>     > and
>>>>     >     > look there.  But also, the email won't make it to the list.
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     > -Alex
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     > On 4/22/20, 9:19 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
>>>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>>>>     > wrote:
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >     If I redirect emails to commits etc. How would I know
>>>> that
>>>>     > Jenkins got
>>>>     >     >     rejection? Do I get this info in Jenkins web console
>>>> interface
>>>>     > somehow?
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >     On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 6:37 PM Alex Harui
>>>>     > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>>>>     >     > wrote:
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >     > Pretty sure I tried allowing CI Server and Infra
>>>> would have
>>>>     >     > suggested that
>>>>     >     >     > as well.  You are welcome to try it maybe on
>>>> Royale-asjs since
>>>>     > it is
>>>>     >     >     > failing a lot right now.
>>>>     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     > -Alex
>>>>     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     > On 4/21/20, 12:01 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
>>>>     > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>>>>     >     > wrote:
>>>>     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     Alex,
>>>>     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     Yes problem is solvable - redirect email not to
>>>> dev but to
>>>>     >     > commits or
>>>>     >     >     > other
>>>>     >     >     >     email which we have available - This is the
>>>> solution.
>>>>     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     If I'm new to the list and subscribing here -
>>>> seeing tons
>>>>     > of
>>>>     >     > weird
>>>>     >     >     > emails
>>>>     >     >     >     instead of emails about concrete subject - I would
>>>>     > unsubscribe in
>>>>     >     >     > about 1
>>>>     >     >     >     day max. - I wouldn't care that I can make a
>>>> filter on my
>>>>     > inbox,
>>>>     >     > cause
>>>>     >     >     > I
>>>>     >     >     >     have for example 100 filters already. If I look
>>>> into the
>>>>     > archive
>>>>     >     > I
>>>>     >     >     > really
>>>>     >     >     >     cannot read it, cause mailing list is obfuscated
>>>> by stuff
>>>>     > which
>>>>     >     > uses
>>>>     >     >     > by PMC
>>>>     >     >     >     and committers - If you are PMC or committer and
>>>> care about
>>>>     >     > stuff you
>>>>     >     >     > will
>>>>     >     >     >     subscribe for another list.
>>>>     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     Thanks,
>>>>     >     >     >     Piotr
>>>>     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     wt., 21 kwi 2020 o 08:44 Alex Harui
>>>>     > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>>>>     >     >     > napisał(a):
>>>>     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     > I have a few minutes waiting for step 11 to
>>>> finish so
>>>>     > have
>>>>     >     > some time
>>>>     >     >     > to
>>>>     >     >     >     > think about this more.
>>>>     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     > My understanding is that we would need to send
>>>> from an
>>>>     > a.o
>>>>     >     > email
>>>>     >     >     > address
>>>>     >     >     >     > to have it end up on commits@.  I don't know
>>>> how to do
>>>>     > that
>>>>     >     > on a
>>>>     >     >     > shared
>>>>     >     >     >     > machine.
>>>>     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     > Maybe we should agree on what the problem is
>>>> before
>>>>     > looking for
>>>>     >     >     >     > solutions.  To me, the problem seems mostly
>>>> unsolvable.
>>>>     > As a
>>>>     >     > PMC
>>>>     >     >     > member
>>>>     >     >     >     > you are supposed to be watching the commits,
>>>> and as a
>>>>     >     > committer, you
>>>>     >     >     > need
>>>>     >     >     >     > to know if you broke the build, and as a
>>>> community
>>>>     > member, you
>>>>     >     >     > should help
>>>>     >     >     >     > fix the build even if you didn't break it.
>>>> Moving CI
>>>>     > emails
>>>>     >     > out of
>>>>     >     >     > your
>>>>     >     >     >     > inbox via another list or a filter certainly
>>>> will save
>>>>     > you
>>>>     >     > time, but
>>>>     >     >     >     > doesn't seem fair to others.  Because if you
>>>> aren't
>>>>     > doing your
>>>>     >     > share
>>>>     >     >     > of
>>>>     >     >     >     > commit reviews, or if you don't see right away
>>>> that you
>>>>     > might
>>>>     >     > have
>>>>     >     >     > broken
>>>>     >     >     >     > the build then others have more work to do or
>>>> can't get
>>>>     > their
>>>>     >     > work
>>>>     >     >     > done.
>>>>     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     > And  if we were a busier project, we might have
>>>> rules on
>>>>     >     > whether you
>>>>     >     >     > can
>>>>     >     >     >     > commit while the build is broken or not so as
>>>> not to
>>>>     > make it
>>>>     >     > harder
>>>>     >     >     > for the
>>>>     >     >     >     > person trying to fix the build to fix it.
>>>>     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     > But meanwhile, there are a lot of emails that
>>>> you don't
>>>>     > really
>>>>     >     > need
>>>>     >     >     > to
>>>>     >     >     >     > read.  How can anyone know which ones to read
>>>> and which
>>>>     > ones
>>>>     >     > can be
>>>>     >     >     >     > skipped?  And what tools can be used to make
>>>> that
>>>>     > happen?  Are
>>>>     >     > there
>>>>     >     >     > email
>>>>     >     >     >     > tools that can tell if someone is working on a
>>>> broken
>>>>     > build?
>>>>     >     > Can
>>>>     >     >     > Jenkins
>>>>     >     >     >     > tell us more in each failure message so you can
>>>> filter
>>>>     > out a
>>>>     >     > series
>>>>     >     >     > of
>>>>     >     >     >     > broken build emails?  Maybe that's what we
>>>> should be
>>>>     > figuring
>>>>     >     > out.
>>>>     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     > My 2 cents,
>>>>     >     >     >     > -Alex
>>>>     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     > On 4/20/20, 11:21 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
>>>>     >     > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>>>>     >     >     > wrote:
>>>>     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     It's end up with using Dev, so I would like
>>>> to get
>>>>     > back to
>>>>     >     > idea
>>>>     >     >     > of
>>>>     >     >     >     > having
>>>>     >     >     >     >     either separate mailing list or sending
>>>> that to
>>>>     >     >     > commits@royale.a.o -
>>>>     >     >     >     > Your
>>>>     >     >     >     >     last comments indicates that email was still
>>>>     > rejected - Is
>>>>     >     > it
>>>>     >     >     > still the
>>>>     >     >     >     >     case ?
>>>>     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     wt., 21 kwi 2020 o 00:43 Alex Harui
>>>>     >     > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>>>>     >     >     >     > napisał(a):
>>>>     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     > I already asked.  See: INFRA-15722
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     > On 4/20/20, 2:45 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
>>>>     >     >     > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>>>>     >     >     >     > wrote:
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     To me argument of having info that
>>>> server
>>>>     > failed vs
>>>>     >     > have
>>>>     >     >     > cleaned
>>>>     >     >     >     > inbox
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     finally - I'm choosing to have inbox
>>>> cleaned.
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     If Apache rejected email from Jenkins
>>>> on
>>>>     > commits@ I
>>>>     >     > can
>>>>     >     >     > ask
>>>>     >     >     >     > infra
>>>>     >     >     >     >     > what can
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     be done.
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 10:43 PM Alex
>>>> Harui
>>>>     >     >     >     > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>>>>     >     >     >     >     > wrote:
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     > I've been unable to get the CI
>>>> server to
>>>>     > send to
>>>>     >     > commits@
>>>>     >     >     > .
>>>>     >     >     >     > Apache
>>>>     >     >     >     >     > blocks
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     > it.
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     > Maybe issues@, but these aren't
>>>> about
>>>>     > issues.
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     > IMO, the point of these Jenkins
>>>> emails is so
>>>>     > that
>>>>     >     > all
>>>>     >     >     >     > committers
>>>>     >     >     >     >     > know the
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     > current state of the builds and
>>>> help fix
>>>>     > issues
>>>>     >     > when
>>>>     >     >     >     > possible.  My
>>>>     >     >     >     >     > concern
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     > is that when committers start
>>>> filtering CI
>>>>     > emails
>>>>     >     > they
>>>>     >     >     > will
>>>>     >     >     >     > miss
>>>>     >     >     >     >     > when one
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     > of their commits breaks the build.
>>>> So, the
>>>>     > only
>>>>     >     > reason
>>>>     >     >     > to
>>>>     >     >     >     > split CI
>>>>     >     >     >     >     > emails
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     > off this list is to reduce traffic
>>>> to the
>>>>     >     > non-committers.
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     > My 2 cents,
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     > -Alex
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     > On 4/20/20, 1:17 PM, "OmPrakash
>>>> Muppirala" <
>>>>     >     >     >     > bigosma...@gmail.com>
>>>>     >     >     >     >     > wrote:
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     We already have issues@ and
>>>> commits@.
>>>>     > Can we
>>>>     >     >     > redirect the
>>>>     >     >     >     >     > emails to
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     > one of
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     the lists?
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:54
>>>> AM Alex
>>>>     > Harui
>>>>     >     >     >     >     > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     wrote:
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     > IMO, if we do create a new
>>>> list, all
>>>>     >     > committers
>>>>     >     >     > must be
>>>>     >     >     >     >     > subscribed.
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     > My 2 cents,
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     > -Alex
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     > On 4/20/20, 1:53 AM, "Piotr
>>>> Zarzycki" <
>>>>     >     >     >     >     > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     > wrote:
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Hi Guys,
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     In the last year or so all
>>>>     > notifications
>>>>     >     > from
>>>>     >     >     > Jenkins
>>>>     >     >     >     >     > build are
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     > going
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     > to
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     development mailing list.
>>>> It
>>>>     > becomes very
>>>>     >     >     > messy I see
>>>>     >     >     >     >     > every day
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     > 40-50
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     emails where 80% of that
>>>> is
>>>>     > notification
>>>>     >     > from
>>>>     >     >     >     > Jenkins.
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     I would like to propose
>>>> create
>>>>     > separate
>>>>     >     >     > mailing list
>>>>     >     >     >     > to
>>>>     >     >     >     >     > have such
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     notifications there.
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Is it possible?
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Please share your
>>>> thoughts on that
>>>>     >     > subject.
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Thanks,
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     --
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     --
>>>>     >     >     >     >
>>>>     >     >     >     >     Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>     >     >     >     >
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