Hi Alex,

We would like to display version in UI. In the time when we have started to
put more emphasize on installer to easier installation of some SDK for
users - Royale SDK won't have process of releasing so often. We will come
with solution where we would have much more robust way of changing anything.

Question to you: What do you mean " "use custom build" and accept a URL." ?

Thanks,
Piotr

śr., 17 cze 2020 o 00:04 Alex Harui <[email protected]> napisał(a):

> Maven, as is currently used in Royale, defaults to assuming the develop
> branch is of the release-version plus the SNAPSHOT suffix and defaults to
> removing the SNAPSHOT suffix in the release branch and advancing the
> develop version in the develop branch.  It is all configurable, but
> probably easier on the RM if we use the defaults.
>
> I'm sort of curious as to how/why Moonshine has expectations of
> nightly-build version numbers.  What if Royale suddenly wanted to release
> every two weeks?  Would that also break something in Moonshine if Moonshine
> could not also release every two weeks?  Might be better if Moonshine used
> a redirectable URL to find the nightly.  I'm also not sure how much
> Moonshine should encourage use of nightly builds so maybe that capability
> should evolve to be more like "use custom build" and accept a URL.
>
> My 2 cents,
> -Alex
>
> On 6/16/20, 9:22 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     I'm sorry Harbs. I've seen that but I didn't connect it with Moonshine
> at
>     that moment. :(
>
>     Thank you!
>
>     On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 6:06 PM Harbs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     > We discussed the version number and I already suggested that we
> change the
>     > number before release. No one objected before. That’s why I made the
> change.
>     >
>     > I reverted my commit fo now, so it should be back to 0.9.8 as soon
> as the
>     > next build completes. FWIW, the version number has always been
> changed in
>     > the develop branch immediately after release.
>     >
>     > I’m planning on discussing with Yishay and/or Alex starting the
> release
>     > soon. Not sure the implications of changing the version in the
> release
>     > branch vs. develop.
>     >
>     > > On Jun 16, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> [email protected]>
>     > wrote:
>     > >
>     > > Harbs,
>     > >
>     > > You can use whatever you want number of version for release, but
> change
>     > it
>     > > once you release stuff not earlier - that's my point. It is not the
>     > problem
>     > > have 0.10.0 version of Royale for upcoming release at all.
>     > >
>     > > We are using hard coded url along with hard coded version in order
> to
>     > > download Nightly build of Royale. Now you have changed it so 0.9.8
> is not
>     > > available obviously - our logic is failing and user is not able to
>     > download
>     > > Royale.
>     > >
>     > > Thanks,
>     > > Piotr
>     > >
>     > > wt., 16 cze 2020 o 16:37 Harbs <[email protected]> napisał(a):
>     > >
>     > >> We can revert the bump, but I’m not sure it’s a great idea to set
> the
>     > >> version in the release branch. It seems to me that the develop
> branch
>     > >> should match the next release.
>     > >>
>     > >> If a version number of 0.10.0 breaks Moonshine, I think we should
> use
>     > >> 0.9.8 for the next release.
>     > >>
>     > >> Although I’m not sure I understand why 0.10.0 breaks Moonshine.
>     > >>
>     > >>> On Jun 16, 2020, at 5:29 PM, Andrew Wetmore <[email protected]
> >
>     > wrote:
>     > >>>
>     > >>> I support Piotr in this. We need to apply the number bump closer
> to
>     > when
>     > >>> the release will be available, rather than disrupting a very
> useful
>     > >> partner
>     > >>> application and its user community.
>     > >>>
>     > >>> a
>     > >>>
>     > >>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 11:10 AM Piotr Zarzycki <
>     > >> [email protected]>
>     > >>> wrote:
>     > >>>
>     > >>>> Hi Chris,
>     > >>>>
>     > >>>> You are right and I have mentioned in my previous email that we
> are
>     > >>>> planning to fix that - it's going to happen probably in couple
> of
>     > >> weeks. It
>     > >>>> was not clear to you from the previous email ?
>     > >>>>
>     > >>>> I have asked Harbs for revert, cause I feel like it shouldn't be
>     > >> increased
>     > >>>> yet. Before he started to release it may have been days or
> weeks,
>     > cause
>     > >> non
>     > >>>> of us is obligated to hold any kind of schedule towards the
> project.
>     > It
>     > >>>> ends up that our tool won't work during all of that time.
>     > >>>>
>     > >>>> Let's wait for some words from Harbs.
>     > >>>>
>     > >>>> Thanks,
>     > >>>> Piotr
>     > >>>>
>     > >>>> wt., 16 cze 2020 o 16:03 Christofer Dutz <
> [email protected]>
>     > >>>> napisał(a):
>     > >>>>
>     > >>>>> Hi all,
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>> just my few cents from the side-lines ...
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>> if the version bump from a release breaks something for an
> external
>     > >> tool,
>     > >>>>> I would probably consider that a problem with the tool,
> correct?
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>> Shouldn't the situation where a new version is being released
> sort of
>     > >> be
>     > >>>> a
>     > >>>>> situation a tool can explicitly live with and the users
> shouldn't
>     > have
>     > >> to
>     > >>>>> wait for this version to be explicitly supported?
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>> I so I would assume, if it downloads a nightly, it should
> probably
>     > >> check
>     > >>>>> the version and automatically use that.
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>> And after all Harbs did mention his plans to re-release pretty
> soon.
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>> Perhaps an increased release speed is even something that will
> help
>     > >>>>> improve the overall tooling.
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>> Chris
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>> Am 16.06.20, 12:58 schrieb "Piotr Zarzycki" <
>     > >> [email protected]
>     > >>>>> :
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>>   Hi Harbs,
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>>   I think your changes in develop version to 0.10.0 is a bit
>     > >> premature.
>     > >>>>>   Shouldn't you have done this during release process ?
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>>   Your changes break our Moonshine SDK Installer [1] - which
> we have
>     > >>>>> released
>     > >>>>>   one week ago with update where user can download newest
> released
>     > and
>     > >>>>>   nightly build of Royale. Right now downloading nightly is not
>     > >>>> possible
>     > >>>>>   through that - it's broken.
>     > >>>>>   We are planning for the next version have an ability to
> change
>     > setup
>     > >>>>> of SDK
>     > >>>>>   without need of releasing whole application, but this is
> still not
>     > >>>>>   implemented - if Royale stays with that version now we will
> need to
>     > >>>>> make
>     > >>>>>   another release - I would like to avoid that effort.
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>>   Would it be possible revert changes and make them once you
> start
>     > >>>>> release
>     > >>>>>   process ? In fact even during release process this [2] -
> shouldn't
>     > >>>>> change
>     > >>>>>   till release is done.
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>>   [1]
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>     > >>>>>   [2]
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>
>     > >>
>     >
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>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>>   Thanks,
>     > >>>>>   Piotr
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>>   wt., 2 cze 2020 o 19:45 Carlos Rovira <
> [email protected]>
>     > >>>>> napisał(a):
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>>> +1 for 0.10.0
>     > >>>>>>
>     > >>>>>> El mar., 2 jun. 2020 a las 17:53, Josh Tynjala (<
>     > >>>>> [email protected]
>     > >>>>>>> )
>     > >>>>>> escribió:
>     > >>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>> +1 on 0.10.0
>     > >>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>> --
>     > >>>>>>> Josh Tynjala
>     > >>>>>>> Bowler Hat LLC <
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> >
>     > >>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 5:36 AM Andrew Wetmore <
>     > >>>> [email protected]
>     > >>>>>>
>     > >>>>>> wrote:
>     > >>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>> That's why I raised it now. I formally propose that, if this
>     > >>>>> release
>     > >>>>>>>> includes new functions or features, and is not just a bug
> fix,
>     > >>>>> that we
>     > >>>>>>> call
>     > >>>>>>>> it "0.10.0", and that we follow that pattern for future
>     > >>>> releases.
>     > >>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>> a
>     > >>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 9:04 AM Harbs <[email protected]
> >
>     > >>>>> wrote:
>     > >>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>> I have no preference.
>     > >>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>> If there’s a consensus on it being 0.10.0, that’s fine with
>     > >>>> me,
>     > >>>>>>> although
>     > >>>>>>>>> it’ll probably be easiest if we make that change before we
>     > >>>>> start on
>     > >>>>>> the
>     > >>>>>>>>> release.
>     > >>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>> Harbs
>     > >>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 2, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
>     > >>>>> [email protected]>
>     > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>     > >>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>> As Chris mentioned, will this release be 0.10.0? That is,
>     > >>>>> does it
>     > >>>>>> add
>     > >>>>>>>>>> features and functions? Or is it a bug-fix release, and
>     > >>>>> therefore
>     > >>>>>>>> 0.9.8?
>     > >>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>> a
>     > >>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 5:47 AM Piotr Zarzycki <
>     > >>>>>>>> [email protected]
>     > >>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>     > >>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>>> Good luck! :)
>     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>>> wt., 2 cze 2020 o 10:36 Harbs <[email protected]>
>     > >>>>> napisał(a):
>     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>>>> I intend to start on the next release early next week.
>     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to give folks a heads-up and time before I
>     > >>>> start.
>     > >>>>> If
>     > >>>>>>> there’s
>     > >>>>>>>>>>>> anything you have on your list to get done before our
>     > >>>> next
>     > >>>>>> release,
>     > >>>>>>>> now
>     > >>>>>>>>>>> is
>     > >>>>>>>>>>>> the time. :-)
>     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>     > >>>>>>>>>>>> Harbs
>     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>>> --
>     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>>> Patreon: *
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>     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>> --
>     > >>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
>     > >>>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>>
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>     > >>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>> --
>     > >>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
>     > >>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>>
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>     > >>>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>
>     > >>>>>>
>     > >>>>>> --
>     > >>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>     > >>>>>>
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>     > >>>>>>
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>>   --
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>>   Piotr Zarzycki
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>>   Patreon: *
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>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>
>     > >>>> --
>     > >>>>
>     > >>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>     > >>>>
>     > >>>> Patreon: *
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>     > >>>>
>     > >>>
>     > >>>
>     > >>> --
>     > >>> Andrew Wetmore
>     > >>>
>     > >>>
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>     > >>
>     > >
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>     > >
>     > > Piotr Zarzycki
>     > >
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