@Mentors, monthly reports are fine if that's helping to show the progress in the project.
As discussed on the private@, here's the summary of the action items for the community in order to address the concerns - - Update the website for status file. - Tracked via SENTRY-759 - Fix the mailing list archive link on Sentry page - Tracked via SENTRY-759 - Review and Update 'How to xxx' steps - Tracked via SENTRY-759 - Start discussion thread on dev@ about adding a project roadmap page on wiki - Pending - Add/improve committer/ppmc responsibilities listing on the wiki - Tracked via SENTRY-760 - Add release discussion step in how to release - Tracked via SENTRY-760 - Create checklist for how to vote on release - Tracked via SENTRY-760 Based on the current feedback, we will add monthly reporting to the PPMC responsibilities. Patrick's suggestion of community members volunteering in advance for next report sounds good. We could try that for next few reports. thanks Prasad On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur <[email protected]> wrote: > +1 for the idea. > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Patrick Hunt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I suspect that not getting the report out early is a side effect of not > > having a specific person assigned to generate the report. Everyone > assumes > > everyone else will do it. Perhaps it would help if you identified a > > particular person, at the start of each period, who is responsible for > the > > next report? > > > > Patrick > > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Sravya Tirukkovalur <[email protected] > > > > wrote: > > > > > My sincere apologies for not being able to put together the report much > > in > > > advance. I did send out the email one day prior, so that members of all > > > time zones get a chance to review though, but I agree sooner would have > > > been definitely better. Also I was not really sure if the concerns > raised > > > should be listed in the board report or they were mostly for the > podling > > > members to keep track, rectify and improve on it. > > > > > > Community has started working on the concerns raised and hoping to > > resolve > > > most of it soon. And I see that most of the product discussions happen > on > > > jira/review board, but I agree that it will be good to start > discussions > > > first on dev list for more community involvement. > > > > > > As we cannot edit the report now, I think it is fair enough to submit > > > monthly reports for a bit until we resolve all the concerns raised. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:57 AM, Joe Brockmeier <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015, at 03:44 AM, David Nalley wrote: > > > > > Hi folks: > > > > > > > > > > I apologize for a lack of engagement of late. That has caused > > > > > problems. (lack of oversight on the release vote for instance) > > > > > > > > > > I left comments on the board report about concerns I have, and > wanted > > > > > to ensure that it's a conversation we continue and that it doesn't > > > > > just get lost. > > > > > > > > > > So here are my comments - and one of the links will not work for > you, > > > > > but do work for the board members and IPMC members reviewing the > > board > > > > > report. My goal is not to beat up, or complain, but ensure that > > things > > > > > improve and that this projects successfully graduates. > > > > > > > > > > dn: Recently during the conversation around graduation, mentors > have > > > > > raised a number of concerns. The gravest of these is concerns > > > > > around where project direction is occurring. > > > > > See http://s.apache.org/sentrygraddiscussion for more detail. > > > > > Additionally, it was discovered that Sentry did not follow the > > > > > Incubator release process for the 1.5.0 release - though that is > now > > > > > being rectified on general@ - see: > > > > > http://s.apache.org/sentryreleaseissue > > > > > I am somewhat concerned that the report mentions neither of these > > > > > things and for that reason, I am withholding signoff. > > > > > > > > Full agreement here. Also, I'm disappointed after the feedback I've > > > > given elsewhere that -- once again -- the board report is being > pulled > > > > together at the last minute without the opportunity for actual > > community > > > > review of the report. The community should have at least 72 hours to > > > > review something like this for proper discussion. > > > > > > > > I see an enormous disconnect between the project's report and the > > > > reality. There are very serious concerns about the podling that have > > > > been expressed to the project and they are not reflected here. > > > > > > > > > I also think it would be reasonable for the podling to report > monthly > > > > > for the next three months or so to report on progress dealing with > > > > > these issues. > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > --David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur < > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Thank you all for proof reading! I just posted the report to > > > incubator > > > > wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Gregory Chanan < > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> lgtm. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Greg > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Lenni Kuff < > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > +1 - lgtm, thanks for writing this up Sravya. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Prasad Mujumdar < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Looks fine to me. Thanks Sravya. > > > > > >> > > +1 > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > thanks > > > > > >> > > Prasad > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Sravya Tirukkovalur < > > > > > >> > [email protected]> > > > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Thank you Prasad for the feedback! Made the changes. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Prasad Mujumdar < > > > > > >> [email protected] > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks Sravya for putting this together! Looks mostly > > > > fine. A > > > > > >> few > > > > > >> > > > minor > > > > > >> > > > > comments/suggestions below - > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > bq. Sentry community is getting ready for graduation. > > > > > >> > > > > I am not sure if we want to mention that under "issues" > > > > section. > > > > > >> How > > > > > >> > > > about > > > > > >> > > > > adding that to community or project section ? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Date of last release - IMO we should wait for IPMC vote > > for > > > > new > > > > > >> > > release. > > > > > >> > > > We > > > > > >> > > > > can mention the new release vote underway in the > community > > > > section. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > thanks > > > > > >> > > > > Prasad > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur < > > > > > >> > [email protected] > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Here is a draft of report [1]. Please let me know if > you > > > > have any > > > > > >> > > > > > suggestions. As we need to submit this today, I will > > wait > > > > for > > > > > >> > > another 6 > > > > > >> > > > > > hours before submitting it on incubator page. If I > > receive > > > > > >> feedback > > > > > >> > > > after > > > > > >> > > > > > that I will update it directly there. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > >> > > > > > [1]: > > > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SENTRY/June+2015 > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > -- > > > > > >> > > > Sravya Tirukkovalur > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Sravya Tirukkovalur > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > jzb > > > > -- > > > > Joe Brockmeier > > > > [email protected] > > > > Twitter: @jzb > > > > http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sravya Tirukkovalur > > > > > > > > > -- > Sravya Tirukkovalur >
