L.S.,

Yeah, that sounds like a good plan:
- rename the existing kit to apache-servicemix-4.x.0-jbi
- add the camel/activemq/... only one as the default apache-servicemix-4.x.0
- add the full kit with everything in it for our offline/firewalled/... users

I'll raise JIRA issues for the first two and will link Geert's issue
for the full kit to that as well.  As always, if anyone fancies taking
a stab at any of these issues, feel free to go for it ;)


Regards,

Gert Vanthienen
------------------------
FuseSource
Web: http://fusesource.com
Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/



On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Matt Pavlovich <[email protected]> wrote:
> +1
>
> Re (1).. if there is a recommended release, I suggest forgoing any further 
> adjectives, and just call it apache-servicemix-4.x.0.  Make the JBI release 
> the "special name" release ie.. apache-servicemix-4.x.0-jbi.   "Minimal" 
> might suggest missing core features, and besides the JBI users know who they 
> are ;-)
>
> Re (2) Yes!  Yes!  Yes!  Offline and users behind corporate proxies have all 
> sorts of issues if they can't connect.
>
> Matt Pavlovich
>
> On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Gert Vanthienen wrote:
>
>> L.S.,
>>
>>
>> Looking at mails on the user mailing lists and going by my own
>> production project experience, I'm seeing two use cases for ServiceMix
>> where we could support our user base by providing new packaging
>> options for Apache ServiceMix.
>>
>> 1). A lot of our users seem to be using only Camel/ActiveMQ (and
>> perhaps CXF) on their Karaf runtimes.  Many people don't have a use
>> case for JBI/NMR and then decide to just create the container they are
>> looking for by adding things on top of Karaf directly.  I think it
>> would be a good idea to add a apache-servicemix-4.x.0-minimal
>> distribution which only packages and installs these basic bundles and
>> leaves everything else there as optional features.  Given that we are
>> recommending the use of Camel/ActiveMQ/CXF over JBI/NMR ourselves a
>> lot, we should really have our distribution represent that
>> recommendation.  Over time, we might even consider making this the
>> default download and renaming the existing one to
>> apache-servicemix-4.x.0-jbi instead or something.
>>
>> 2). Another question we occasionally see on the mailing lists is from
>> users that are running ServiceMix on machines that don't have internet
>> access and that are having a hard time installing optional features.
>> In order to cater for that need, we could add an
>> apache-servicemix-4.x.0-full distribution that contains bundles for
>> all the features we ship with, regardless of whether they're installed
>> by default or not.  A quick test shows that it would become over 200
>> MB in size, which might make the release process a bit heavy, but one
>> other hand: there's definitely a user base for this kind of convenient
>> all-in-one download as well.
>>
>> What do people think about adding these two packaging options?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gert Vanthienen
>> ------------------------
>> FuseSource
>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>> Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/
>
>

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