Hello Eric, 1) The idea here is that when a user run’s “bin/solr start” it fires up an embedded zookeeper. Same behavior as “bin/solr -c” in Solr 9.5. If you have a Zookeeper Ensemble then “bin/solr start -z YOUR_ZK_SETUP” would connect to the external ensemble instead. If Solrcloud is the new default, this sounds good to me from a user perspective.
2) bin/solr start —standalone I have always known the modes as standalone and solrcloud. But current documentation uses "user-managed" instead of "standalone": https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/deployment-guide/cluster-types.html#solrcloud-mode Mail thread shared by Jan uses "standalone" too. IMHO, standalone describes it better, but if all users know it as "user-managed" and documentation uses that name. 2) Ref Guide changes to put Solrcloud first and standalone/user-managed second. Not all docs have solrcloud at the end. Some point to a different page for solrcloud at the start, like Backups: https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/deployment-guide/backup-restore.html The new/current default should appear first in the documentation, including the starting guide. I know from my experience users will not read the complete page and use/test the first part. Kind Regards, Alejandro Arrieta On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 9:23 AM Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the link to that 2021 discussion Jan - had forgotten about that. > > I agree that SIP-14 (or some portion of it) goes a long way towards > making SolrCloud (w/ embedded ZK) a more serviceable default. > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 7:14 PM Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com> wrote: > > > > Cross referencing earlier discussion "[DISCUSS] Make Cloud mode the > default option in bin/solr" from May 2021: > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/79xp2xfvqwhr9zccmsvjvj0hckgg5m6w > > > > Some valid arguments for an against in that thread. > > > > Ideally I'd prefer SIP-14 to be done before embedded zk is promoted as > the best way to run Solr. > > > > Jan > > > > > 23. feb. 2024 kl. 19:06 skrev Eric Pugh < > ep...@opensourceconnections.com>: > > > > > > During today’s community discussion the topic of moving to defaulting > to SolrCloud mode came up. > > > > > > The idea here is that when a user run’s “bin/solr start” it fires up > an embedded zookeeper. Same behavior as “bin/solr -c” in Solr 9.5. If > you have a Zookeeper Ensemble then “bin/solr start -z YOUR_ZK_SETUP” would > connect to the external ensemble instead. > > > > > > If you want to continue to use the class user managed mode, then > bin/solr start —user-managed maybe? Or bin/solr start —standalone ??? > > > > > > Other changes would be to go through the Ref Guide and where we have > both SolrCloud and non SolrCloud content that we make sure SolrCloud > content is at the top instead of at the bottom. > > > > > > To me, this feels like a change that would go on main. > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________ > > > Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467 > | http://www.opensourceconnections.com < > http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> | My Free/Busy < > http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal> > > > Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed < > https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw > > > > > This e-mail and all contents, including attachments, is considered to > be Company Confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise, regardless of > whether attachments are marked as such. > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org > >
