Whoops; bad URL.  Here it is:
https://lists.apache.org/thread/r7mh069t5zvqv3o3ymglm627pcdgjzfw

On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 3:59 PM David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Also reference a bigger discussion of August that same year:
> "SolrCloud Alone: Deprecate Standalone Mode"
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@solr.apache.org
>
> (reading past conversations on a topic should be required reading when
> introducing again)
>
> RE "user-managed" I recall Cassandra was working on the ref guide and
> tried to get us to harmonize on some terminology.  Ultimately "user
> managed" was chosen and thus this term is widespread in the ref guide
> despite "standalone" clearly being used for many years.  Personally, I
> *much* prefer "standalone" and continue to use it (sorry?).
>
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 7:14 PM Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com> wrote:
> >
> > Cross referencing earlier discussion "[DISCUSS] Make Cloud mode the default 
> > option in bin/solr" from May 2021:
> >  https://lists.apache.org/thread/79xp2xfvqwhr9zccmsvjvj0hckgg5m6w
> >
> > Some valid arguments for an against in that thread.
> >
> > Ideally I'd prefer SIP-14 to be done before embedded zk is promoted as the 
> > best way to run Solr.
> >
> > Jan
> >
> > > 23. feb. 2024 kl. 19:06 skrev Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com>:
> > >
> > > During today’s community discussion the topic of moving to defaulting to 
> > > SolrCloud mode came up.
> > >
> > > The idea here is that when a user run’s “bin/solr start” it fires up an 
> > > embedded zookeeper.   Same behavior as “bin/solr -c” in Solr 9.5.    If 
> > > you have a Zookeeper Ensemble then “bin/solr start -z YOUR_ZK_SETUP” 
> > > would connect to the external ensemble instead.
> > >
> > > If you want to continue to use the class user managed mode, then bin/solr 
> > > start —user-managed maybe?   Or bin/solr start —standalone ???
> > >
> > > Other changes would be to go through the Ref Guide and where we have both 
> > > SolrCloud and non SolrCloud content that we make sure SolrCloud content 
> > > is at the top instead of at the bottom.
> > >
> > > To me, this feels like a change that would go on main.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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