On Mon, 2011-03-07 at 13:30 +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > Spam (or any mail from non-subscribers for that matter) end up in the
> > moderator's queue. Spam filtering helps in keeping the queue low, but
> > the most important concept here is subscription.

FYI, this is not a "nice idea", this is reality. I was talking about the
SA mailing lists, where I am one of the moderators. This is precisely
how it is with all ASF lists, and e.g. GNOME lists -- just to name two
large organizations, where I have insight in the internal process.

> Nice Idea but such messages come mostly one day later to the lists which
> is mostly inacceptable.  Also MANY users do not  want  to  subscribe  to
> HIGH VOLUME Mailinglists like some Debian ones.

A day later? Sounds like they have been moderated through somehow.
That's a problem with the moderation process.


> However, my public used E-Mail (like this one)  receive  currently  more
> then 12.000 spams per day...  and it is realy annoying if the spames are
> sending from domains in the DNSWL and get VERY low scores.

Sorry Michelle, but I won't discuss this topic with you.

You have a track record of going ballistic on the users list over spam
waves every once in a while, which more than once [1] turned out to be a
problem with a single, DNSWL listed Debian server. Once the diagnosis is
to extend your trusted networks, you become unresponsive and outright
ignore the suggestion.

As long a you insist to keep your broken setup, and complain to us about
obviously un-moderated Debian lists or forwarder addresses, any
statement from you, that includes the word DNSWL, cannot possibly be
taken serious.

  guenther


[1] Those cases where you actually cared to provide samples on request.

-- 
char *t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0.@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8? c<<=1:
(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}

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