You may have noticed that the counter of searchable items for last 7 days on 
search-Hadoop is 0 and the counter for last 30 days is declining quickly. 

Cheers

On Dec 19, 2013, at 10:10 PM, Nick Pentreath <nick.pentre...@gmail.com> wrote:

> One option that is 3rd party that works nicely for the Hadoop project and 
> it's related projects is http://search-hadoop.com - managed by sematext. 
> Perhaps we can plead with Otis to add Spark lists to search-spark.com, or the 
> existing site?
> 
> Just throwing it out there as a potential solution to at least searching and 
> navigating the Apache lists
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 6:46 AM, Aaron Davidson <ilike...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I'd be fine with one-way mirrors here (Apache threads being reflected in
>> Google groups) -- I have no idea how one is supposed to navigate the Apache
>> list to look for historic threads.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Mike Potts <maspo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks very much for the prompt and comprehensive reply!  I appreciate the
>>> overarching desire to integrate with apache: I'm very happy to hear that
>>> there's a move to use the existing groups as mirrors: that will overcome
>>> all of my objections: particularly if it's bidirectional! :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thursday, December 19, 2013 7:19:06 PM UTC-8, Andy Konwinski wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hey Mike,
>>>> 
>>>> As you probably noticed when you CC'd spark-de...@googlegroups.com, that
>>>> list has already be reconfigured so that it no longer allows posting (and
>>>> bounces emails sent to it).
>>>> 
>>>> We will be doing the same thing to the spark...@googlegroups.com list
>>>> too (we'll announce a date for that soon).
>>>> 
>>>> That may sound very frustrating, and you are *not* alone feeling that
>>>> way. We've had a long conversation with our mentors about this, and I've
>>>> felt very similar to you, so I'd like to give you background.
>>>> 
>>>> As I'm coming to see it, part of becoming an Apache project is moving the
>>>> community *fully* over to Apache infrastructure, and more generally the
>>>> Apache way of organizing the community.
>>>> 
>>>> This applies in both the nuts-and-bolts sense of being on apache infra,
>>>> but possibly more importantly, it is also a guiding principle and way of
>>>> thinking.
>>>> 
>>>> In various ways, moving to apache Infra can be a painful process, and IMO
>>>> the loss of all the great mailing list functionality that comes with using
>>>> Google Groups is perhaps the most painful step. But basically, the de facto
>>>> mailing lists need to be the Apache ones, and not Google Groups. The
>>>> underlying reason is that Apache needs to take full accountability for
>>>> recording and publishing the mailing lists, it has to be able to
>>>> institutionally guarantee this. This is because discussion on mailing lists
>>>> is one of the core things that defines an Apache community. So at a minimum
>>>> this means Apache owning the master copy of the bits.
>>>> 
>>>> All that said, we are discussing the possibility of having a google group
>>>> that subscribes to each list that would provide an easier to use and
>>>> prettier archive for each list (so far we haven't gotten that to work).
>>>> 
>>>> I hope this was helpful. It has taken me a few years now, and a lot of
>>>> conversations with experienced (and patient!) Apache mentors, to
>>>> internalize some of the nuance about "the Apache way". That's why I wanted
>>>> to share.
>>>> 
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Mike Potts <masp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I notice that there are still a lot of active topics in this group: and
>>>>> also activity on the apache mailing list (which is a really horrible
>>>>> experience!).  Is it a firm policy on apache's front to disallow external
>>>>> groups?  I'm going to be ramping up on spark, and I really hate the idea 
>>>>> of
>>>>> having to rely on the apache archives and my mail client.  Also: having to
>>>>> search for topics/keywords both in old threads (here) as well as new
>>>>> threads in apache's (clunky) archive, is going to be a pain!  I almost 
>>>>> feel
>>>>> like I must be missing something because the current solution seems
>>>>> unfeasibly awkward!
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 

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