Thanks Shane,

fwiw, we've already had 3 PMCs (and others) respond* on this thread, so it
looks like from that perspective anyway, we're good to go on that front.

tg

*Techincally one seeded (me) and two responded (Joey and Steve).

On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 1:19 PM Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:

> On 2024/09/10 18:34:21 Trevor Grant wrote:
> > Y'all may or may not have seen, but someone called for us to be moved to
> > the attic w/o a roll call earlier today.
>
> Thanks for raising the question here on the dev@ list, Trevor!
>
> For perspective: the ASF requires that PMCs have at least three active
> PMC members, such that (for example) someone would notice if a
> vulnerability were reported, and that the PMC could then make a release
> with any needed fixes.  This is important, because end users expect that
> any "Apache GoodStuff" project would at least provide a basic level of
> security or other major fixes if needed.
>
> PMCs that can't show they have sufficient people able to reliably show
> up for urgent cases like that are sent to the Apache Attic - where the
> entirety of the project is turned read-only at it's existing URLs.
> While that shutters the active community here at the ASF, all the
> resources are available for anyone who wants to fork them.
>
> This thread is likely the last chance for this community to show there
> are sufficiently *active* volunteers who could step up to make future
> releases, otherwise, the board is likely to send the project to the
> Attic in mid-October.
>
> Thanks for all the past work, no matter which way this thread goes.
>
> --
> - Shane
>    Member
>    The Apache Software Foundation
>
> > I would like to propose one of three ways forward, and I'm curious who is
> > even out there listening and would like to take part in the discussion.
> >
> > 1. Go to the attic... the right way - that is to say actually declare on
> > the website we're going to be retiring the project and go through all of
> > the motions of decommissioning/sunsetting software.
> >
> > 1a. Go to the attic ... the way proposed. Someone just slaps some
> > 'abandoned' stickers on stuff, and everyone just walks away.
> >
> > 2. Revitalize the project - do people still use social media? Is this
> > project in its current form still a viable concern. I ask in good faith-
> I
> > occasionally will scroll insta or twitter, but I feel bad about myself
> when
> > I do, and I'm using them less an less.
> >
> > 3. Pivot the project - this is a whole bike shed argument in itself. But
> if
> > people are interested in still hanging out (I am) but have other things
> > they're interested in. If you like this, either vote for something you've
> > seen or recommend a new thing. I will volunteer donating
> > https://github.com/aboriginal-armadillo/coe-webui/ it's a webui that
> hosts
> > a whole galaxy of other LLMs. I want to emphasize that is not option 3-
> > option 3 is doing _something_ else, and please volunteer ideas- that is
> an
> > idea/thing I volunteer.
> >
> > or
> >
> > 4. I'm watching/interested, but not voting.
> >
> > Thanks for your time!
> >
>

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