On 2024/09/10 18:34:21 Trevor Grant wrote:
Y'all may or may not have seen, but someone called for us to be moved to
the attic w/o a roll call earlier today.
Thanks for raising the question here on the dev@ list, Trevor!
For perspective: the ASF requires that PMCs have at least three active
PMC members, such that (for example) someone would notice if a
vulnerability were reported, and that the PMC could then make a release
with any needed fixes. This is important, because end users expect that
any "Apache GoodStuff" project would at least provide a basic level of
security or other major fixes if needed.
PMCs that can't show they have sufficient people able to reliably show
up for urgent cases like that are sent to the Apache Attic - where the
entirety of the project is turned read-only at it's existing URLs.
While that shutters the active community here at the ASF, all the
resources are available for anyone who wants to fork them.
This thread is likely the last chance for this community to show there
are sufficiently *active* volunteers who could step up to make future
releases, otherwise, the board is likely to send the project to the
Attic in mid-October.
Thanks for all the past work, no matter which way this thread goes.
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- Shane
Member
The Apache Software Foundation
I would like to propose one of three ways forward, and I'm curious who is
even out there listening and would like to take part in the discussion.
1. Go to the attic... the right way - that is to say actually declare on
the website we're going to be retiring the project and go through all of
the motions of decommissioning/sunsetting software.
1a. Go to the attic ... the way proposed. Someone just slaps some
'abandoned' stickers on stuff, and everyone just walks away.
2. Revitalize the project - do people still use social media? Is this
project in its current form still a viable concern. I ask in good faith- I
occasionally will scroll insta or twitter, but I feel bad about myself when
I do, and I'm using them less an less.
3. Pivot the project - this is a whole bike shed argument in itself. But if
people are interested in still hanging out (I am) but have other things
they're interested in. If you like this, either vote for something you've
seen or recommend a new thing. I will volunteer donating
https://github.com/aboriginal-armadillo/coe-webui/ it's a webui that hosts
a whole galaxy of other LLMs. I want to emphasize that is not option 3-
option 3 is doing _something_ else, and please volunteer ideas- that is an
idea/thing I volunteer.
or
4. I'm watching/interested, but not voting.
Thanks for your time!
