I have been drafting a more detailed response that I will send later this evening. However, given Shane's message, I figure that signs of life are a good thing.
I am interested in keeping this project alive. At the absolute minimum, I am following discussions like this one, and would be willing to step up if the project needed urgent attention, such as a security fix. -Brian On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 11:31 AM Trevor Grant <trevor.d.gr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Shane, > > fwiw, we've already had 3 PMCs (and others) respond* on this thread, so it > looks like from that perspective anyway, we're good to go on that front. > > tg > > *Techincally one seeded (me) and two responded (Joey and Steve). > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 1:19 PM Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> > wrote: > > > On 2024/09/10 18:34:21 Trevor Grant wrote: > > > Y'all may or may not have seen, but someone called for us to be moved > to > > > the attic w/o a roll call earlier today. > > > > Thanks for raising the question here on the dev@ list, Trevor! > > > > For perspective: the ASF requires that PMCs have at least three active > > PMC members, such that (for example) someone would notice if a > > vulnerability were reported, and that the PMC could then make a release > > with any needed fixes. This is important, because end users expect that > > any "Apache GoodStuff" project would at least provide a basic level of > > security or other major fixes if needed. > > > > PMCs that can't show they have sufficient people able to reliably show > > up for urgent cases like that are sent to the Apache Attic - where the > > entirety of the project is turned read-only at it's existing URLs. > > While that shutters the active community here at the ASF, all the > > resources are available for anyone who wants to fork them. > > > > This thread is likely the last chance for this community to show there > > are sufficiently *active* volunteers who could step up to make future > > releases, otherwise, the board is likely to send the project to the > > Attic in mid-October. > > > > Thanks for all the past work, no matter which way this thread goes. > > > > -- > > - Shane > > Member > > The Apache Software Foundation > > > > > I would like to propose one of three ways forward, and I'm curious who > is > > > even out there listening and would like to take part in the discussion. > > > > > > 1. Go to the attic... the right way - that is to say actually declare > on > > > the website we're going to be retiring the project and go through all > of > > > the motions of decommissioning/sunsetting software. > > > > > > 1a. Go to the attic ... the way proposed. Someone just slaps some > > > 'abandoned' stickers on stuff, and everyone just walks away. > > > > > > 2. Revitalize the project - do people still use social media? Is this > > > project in its current form still a viable concern. I ask in good > faith- > > I > > > occasionally will scroll insta or twitter, but I feel bad about myself > > when > > > I do, and I'm using them less an less. > > > > > > 3. Pivot the project - this is a whole bike shed argument in itself. > But > > if > > > people are interested in still hanging out (I am) but have other things > > > they're interested in. If you like this, either vote for something > you've > > > seen or recommend a new thing. I will volunteer donating > > > https://github.com/aboriginal-armadillo/coe-webui/ it's a webui that > > hosts > > > a whole galaxy of other LLMs. I want to emphasize that is not option 3- > > > option 3 is doing _something_ else, and please volunteer ideas- that is > > an > > > idea/thing I volunteer. > > > > > > or > > > > > > 4. I'm watching/interested, but not voting. > > > > > > Thanks for your time! > > > > > >
