On 2016-09-19 17:09, Suneel Marthi wrote:
I am sorry to be reading this, but I was at Steve Blackmon's talk last week
in Berlin at Flink forward about using Streams +  Flink.

It was a very interesting talk and I chatted with Steve briefly about the
Streams project.

Good to hear that!
I wasn't aware Steve was presenting about Streams in Berlin.


Is there absolutely no chance of reviving this project or giving the
project some more time before calling the attic ?

Sure there is a chance, but for that the project needs active community involvement. Which has been lacking for quite a while now.
Community building and involvement really is the primary problem for the
project with only a single active member, which is not sustainable.
However, if you are willing and able to get actively involved, and rally some additional community involvement as well, then I'd be happy to postpone/cancel
the retirement VOTE for now.

I suggest to head over to dev@streams.incubator.apache.org, let us know
what you can and will do for the project, and see how that works out.

Regards, Ate





On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu> wrote:

On 2016-09-19 16:33, Ate Douma wrote:

On 2016-09-19 15:44, John D. Ament wrote:

Ate,

Please also note the instructions from the incubator's retirement guide.

http://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html


Right.
Thanks for pointing this out John.

I've never before had to handle a podling retirement and overlooked this
requires different handling from a TLP retirement.
And with slightly different consequences, e.g. website will be taken down,
instead of flagged as being retired.

So, to do this proper, I'll first cancel the vote thread on dev@streams
and open a new [FINAL][DISCUSS] thread for retirement again, this
time also pointing to the podling retirement page.
This way at least everyone on that list will have a proper notice what
the retirement entails.
(not that I expect a different outcome, but there is no rush either)


Reading the podling retirement guide a bit more thoroughly, I think I it is
sufficient to restart the [VOTE] thread for retirement on dev@streams
with the
link to the podling retirement guide.



And after that I'll open the final [VOTE] for retirement here on general@

Ate


John

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 6:37 AM Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu> wrote:

FYI, I've started below vote to retire Apache Streams, after I first
initiated a
[discuss] thread more than a week ago, which resulted in zero feedback.

Ate
(Streams mentor)

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: [VOTE] Retire Apache Streams to the attic
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 23:27:11 +0200
From: Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu>
To: dev@streams.incubator.apache.org <dev@streams.incubator.apache.org>

As a final follow up on the earlier [discuss] thread, lets formally
vote on
retiring Apache Streams and move it to the attic.

The process is described at http://attic.apache.org/process.html

[ ] +1 Move Streams to the Attic
[ ] ±0 Proceed according to the majority
[ ] -1 Do not move Streams to the Attic, because... [please add
justification]

Ate



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