I remain committed to building and sharing open-source software for social web 
data interoperability.  Participating in the incubator process has taught me a 
lot, and I would like the keep the project operating at Apache, but as Ate 
points out the community around this podling has never been healthy and has all 
but disappeared in 2016. 

I would very much welcome anyone interested in this problem to volunteer as a 
mentor or contributor.  With even a few new committed active participants I can 
envision the project graduating to TLP.  Without fresh initiative, it should be 
retired.  Perhaps some of the codebase will be useful elsewhere.

I’ll be submitting a (potentially final) release candidate later today.

Steve Blackmon
sblack...@apache.org
On September 19, 2016 at 10:25:16 AM, Ate Douma (a...@douma.nu) wrote:

On 2016-09-19 17:09, Suneel Marthi wrote:  
> I am sorry to be reading this, but I was at Steve Blackmon's talk last week  
> in Berlin at Flink forward about using Streams + Flink.  
>  
> It was a very interesting talk and I chatted with Steve briefly about the  
> Streams project.  

Good to hear that!  
I wasn't aware Steve was presenting about Streams in Berlin.  

>  
> Is there absolutely no chance of reviving this project or giving the  
> project some more time before calling the attic ?  

Sure there is a chance, but for that the project needs active community  
involvement. Which has been lacking for quite a while now.  
Community building and involvement really is the primary problem for the  
project with only a single active member, which is not sustainable.  
However, if you are willing and able to get actively involved, and rally some  
additional community involvement as well, then I'd be happy to postpone/cancel  
the retirement VOTE for now.  

I suggest to head over to dev@streams.incubator.apache.org, let us know  
what you can and will do for the project, and see how that works out.  

Regards, Ate  

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> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu> wrote:  
>  
>> On 2016-09-19 16:33, Ate Douma wrote:  
>>  
>>> On 2016-09-19 15:44, John D. Ament wrote:  
>>>  
>>>> Ate,  
>>>>  
>>>> Please also note the instructions from the incubator's retirement guide.  
>>>>  
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html  
>>>>  
>>>  
>>> Right.  
>>> Thanks for pointing this out John.  
>>>  
>>> I've never before had to handle a podling retirement and overlooked this  
>>> requires different handling from a TLP retirement.  
>>> And with slightly different consequences, e.g. website will be taken down,  
>>> instead of flagged as being retired.  
>>>  
>>> So, to do this proper, I'll first cancel the vote thread on dev@streams  
>>> and open a new [FINAL][DISCUSS] thread for retirement again, this  
>>> time also pointing to the podling retirement page.  
>>> This way at least everyone on that list will have a proper notice what  
>>> the retirement entails.  
>>> (not that I expect a different outcome, but there is no rush either)  
>>>  
>>  
>> Reading the podling retirement guide a bit more thoroughly, I think I it is  
>> sufficient to restart the [VOTE] thread for retirement on dev@streams  
>> with the  
>> link to the podling retirement guide.  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>> And after that I'll open the final [VOTE] for retirement here on general@  
>>>  
>>> Ate  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>> John  
>>>>  
>>>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 6:37 AM Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu> wrote:  
>>>>  
>>>> FYI, I've started below vote to retire Apache Streams, after I first  
>>>>> initiated a  
>>>>> [discuss] thread more than a week ago, which resulted in zero feedback.  
>>>>>  
>>>>> Ate  
>>>>> (Streams mentor)  
>>>>>  
>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------  
>>>>> Subject: [VOTE] Retire Apache Streams to the attic  
>>>>> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 23:27:11 +0200  
>>>>> From: Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu>  
>>>>> To: dev@streams.incubator.apache.org <dev@streams.incubator.apache.org>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> As a final follow up on the earlier [discuss] thread, lets formally  
>>>>> vote on  
>>>>> retiring Apache Streams and move it to the attic.  
>>>>>  
>>>>> The process is described at http://attic.apache.org/process.html  
>>>>>  
>>>>> [ ] +1 Move Streams to the Attic  
>>>>> [ ] ±0 Proceed according to the majority  
>>>>> [ ] -1 Do not move Streams to the Attic, because... [please add  
>>>>> justification]  
>>>>>  
>>>>> Ate  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
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