Den mån 3 jan. 2022 kl 06:27 skrev Daniel Shahaf <d...@daniel.shahaf.name>:

> Daniel Sahlberg wrote on Sun, 02 Jan 2022 11:27 +00:00:
> > [...]
>
> Thanks for all the [snipped] research!
>
> > But I'm not fond of using yet another external service.
>
> I don't see the problem.  We point folks on users@ to git/hg if those
> suit their needs better, so what's stopping us from pointing our users
> to an external list archive?
>

I'm just worried that we point someone to an external archive, start to
accumulate a lot of links and suddenly the external party lose interest in
maintaining the site and we end up in a situation where we have a lot of
links that suddenly are 404. Similar to what happened to svn.haxx.se a year
ago (it turned out well but we can't expect everyone to be as accommodating
as Daniel Stenberg was/is, or maybe we don't even /want/ to take it over as
I would suspect in the case of marc.info where there is a lot of
non-svn-related data).

> I'll wait for some comments before committing anything (or feel free to
> > commit the patch as attached or updated).
>
> At this point I have to say, what's stopping us from just setting up our
> own archives, encompassing all our history including the pre-ASF one?
>

Nothing except the work to be done and to maintain it. I don't think I can
volunteer any time to this atm (preferring to look at the code).

The hard part of having archives is that it requires having a box online
> that someone needs to apply OS updates to — but we already have
> svn-qavm, so all that remains is to install some archive software
> (mod_mbox or mhonarc or whatever else), load the haxx+apache archives to
> it, and subscribe it to the mailing lists.
>

I've heard there is also an Apache project called Ponymail. (*taking
cover!*)


> (For mhonarc, the incantation is «mhonarc -add» with the message on
> stdin.  mod_mbox parses mbox files dynamically; there's a monthly cron
> job that rotates the delivery paths in the .forward file.  Other archivers
> exist.)
>
> Daniel
>

/The other Daniel


> P.S.  If we do the above work, the marginal cost of adding APR's or serf's
> or for that matter curl's lists to the set-up will be fairly low.  That was
> the concept behind gmane.
>

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