Greg Stein wrote on Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 06:31:16 -0600: > On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 2:18 AM Daniel Sahlberg <daniel.l.sahlb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Den mån 3 jan. 2022 kl 06:27 skrev Daniel Shahaf <d...@daniel.shahaf.name>: > > > >... > > >> I don't see the problem. We point folks on users@ to git/hg if those > >> suit their needs better, so what's stopping us from pointing our users > >> to an external list archive? > >> > > > DShahaf is very Right. There are a dozen third party services supporting > the Apache Subversion community. There really isn't a reason to fear this > one. Especially when the Foundation has a contractual relationship with > them.
That's not what I said. You might've been thinking of Daniel Gruno. > > I'm just worried that we point someone to an external archive, start to > > accumulate a lot of links and suddenly the external party lose interest in > > maintaining the site and we end up in a situation where we have a lot of > > links that suddenly are 404. Similar to what happened to svn.haxx.se a > > > > Key difference: lists.apache.org compared to svn.haxx.se > > Should the Foundation ever terminate its agreement with the lists.a.o > service provider, we can provide redirection since we "own" the hostname > and can run a redirection service. Please don't worry about 404s. We have > spent the past couple years building redirection rules for > mail-archives.a.o, over to lists.a.o. Those are still being > tweaked/modified, as we speak. That same kind of effort will apply to any > lists.a.o turn-off, should it ever happen one day. > Are lists.a.o permalinks permanent, as the name implies? Even if they are, you're ignoring the points about lists.a.o requiring javascript and requiring being online to resolve links. It's well within this PMC's mandate to decide to use an archive whose links are resolvable offline (which entails usability and privacy wins) and doesn't require javascript. [Citation: the second sentence of <https://mail-search.apache.org/pmc/private-arch/subversion-private/201006.mbox/%3CAANLkTilI5bFwnvUMY69FrNj8VYjXZU_wd7GHynAjeZ0t%40mail.gmail.com%3E>. Sorry, I didn't find a world-readable citation.] Daniel (who wishes that link would turn out to be 404ing; that'd make my point so well) > Regards, > Greg > InfraAdmin, ASF; fellow svn
