Assuming this works, is there any reason NOT to do it. If there are no
objections I'll see if I can find a way to test it and create a ticket for
the change.

The only downside I see is spam, but if I understand correctly, the
confluence wiki requires a signed agreement before you can get write access,
so the spam problem should be minimal.

Mark

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:

> The wiki itself is probably going to have to stay nofollow, but it might be
> possible to tell the autoexport template (
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tapestry/tapestry-site/branches/post-5.2-site/autoexport_template.txt)
> to do something like:
>
> $body.replaceAll("nofollow", "")
>
> or maybe
>
> $body.replaceAll("rel=\"nofollow\", "")
>
> That might not be the exact syntax needed, but it looks like replaceAll is
> being used in the template already so I think something along these lines
> has a good chance of working.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Thanks, those are good points.  We're limited in that we use a shared
>> instance of Confluence; those NOFOLLOW attributes are part of
>> Confluence and even if that's configurable, I don't know that we can
>> turn it off.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I noticed that the Tapestry website uses nofollow on all the external
>> > links. Perhaps there is a reason for this, but I wanted to point out a
>> > few thoughts about how it might be less than optimal from the
>> > standpoint of spreading information about Tapestry.
>> >
>> > When nofollow was first introduced the search engine optimization
>> > benefit that wasn't passed to nofollow links was available for other
>> > links.  So if you put nofollow on all external links it helped you
>> > push more SEO value to your internal pages links that didn't use
>> > nofollow.  This meant that adding nofollow to external links could
>> > help your internal pages rank better.  This is no longer the case.
>> > The seo value that would normally be assigned to external links is
>> > simply lost when they are marked as nofollow.
>> >
>> > So there is no advantage to http://tapestry.apache.org in marking each
>> > external link with no follow. However, there is a significant
>> > advantage to the Tapestry community by making Tapestry related
>> > resources easier to find in search engines.  For example, if you do a
>> > search for:
>> >
>> > Tapestry 5 IDE
>> >
>> > I'd expect to find at least the following pages in the first pages
>> results:
>> >
>> > 1. Tapestry's pages and wiki articles talking about IDE integration and
>> setup.
>> > 2. Jet  Brain's page about their Tapestry integration
>> > 3. The loom plugin
>> >
>> > 2 and 3 don't show up in the search results unless you dig down a few
>> > pages into the results. It is much more likely they would show up on
>> > the first page if the links on
>> > http://tapestry.apache.org/community.html were not marked with
>> > nofollow.
>> >
>> > Another example is what you get when you just search for the word
>> > Tapestry.  The top result is http://tapestry.apache.org.  This is
>> > good, but if you look down the page, you'll see that all the other
>> > results are all about fabric. This isn't too unexpected.but here is
>> > basically how Google is thinking.  Google recognizes that Apache
>> > Tapestry is the most important website for someone looking for the
>> > word Tapestry. Then it looks to see what websites Apache Tapestry
>> > considers important. All it finds is a bunch of links that Apache
>> > Tapestry has flagged as "don't trust these, they might be spam".
>> >
>> > Anyway, there is some food for thought.  There may be some reasons
>> > that it needs to be this way, but I wanted to make sure we aren't just
>> > doing something out of habit because it was beneficial 5 years ago
>> > when it might be detrimental today.
>> >
>> > Mark
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