No. I can fill out the form for access to the wiki, but I think to try it on the live system it will need someone who has commit access && is a Confluence administrator. The process is described in the last section of http://tapestry.apache.org/confluence-site-setup.html
I was going to setup Confluence on my local machine to try to test it, but that may be overkill since it is just a single line change and running it locally doesn't really prove it will work on Apache's installation anyway. Mark On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <[email protected]>wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > Assuming this works, is there any reason NOT to do it. If there are no > > objections I'll see if I can find a way to test it and create a ticket > for > > the change. > > > > The only downside I see is spam, but if I understand correctly, the > > confluence wiki requires a signed agreement before you can get write > access, > > so the spam problem should be minimal. > > Sounds like a plan ... do you have write access yet? > > > > > Mark > > > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> The wiki itself is probably going to have to stay nofollow, but it might > be > >> possible to tell the autoexport template ( > >> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tapestry/tapestry-site/branches/post-5.2-site/autoexport_template.txt > ) > >> to do something like: > >> > >> $body.replaceAll("nofollow", "") > >> > >> or maybe > >> > >> $body.replaceAll("rel=\"nofollow\", "") > >> > >> That might not be the exact syntax needed, but it looks like replaceAll > is > >> being used in the template already so I think something along these > lines > >> has a good chance of working. > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <[email protected] > >wrote: > >> > >>> Thanks, those are good points. We're limited in that we use a shared > >>> instance of Confluence; those NOFOLLOW attributes are part of > >>> Confluence and even if that's configurable, I don't know that we can > >>> turn it off. > >>> > >>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > I noticed that the Tapestry website uses nofollow on all the external > >>> > links. Perhaps there is a reason for this, but I wanted to point out > a > >>> > few thoughts about how it might be less than optimal from the > >>> > standpoint of spreading information about Tapestry. > >>> > > >>> > When nofollow was first introduced the search engine optimization > >>> > benefit that wasn't passed to nofollow links was available for other > >>> > links. So if you put nofollow on all external links it helped you > >>> > push more SEO value to your internal pages links that didn't use > >>> > nofollow. This meant that adding nofollow to external links could > >>> > help your internal pages rank better. This is no longer the case. > >>> > The seo value that would normally be assigned to external links is > >>> > simply lost when they are marked as nofollow. > >>> > > >>> > So there is no advantage to http://tapestry.apache.org in marking > each > >>> > external link with no follow. However, there is a significant > >>> > advantage to the Tapestry community by making Tapestry related > >>> > resources easier to find in search engines. For example, if you do a > >>> > search for: > >>> > > >>> > Tapestry 5 IDE > >>> > > >>> > I'd expect to find at least the following pages in the first pages > >>> results: > >>> > > >>> > 1. Tapestry's pages and wiki articles talking about IDE integration > and > >>> setup. > >>> > 2. Jet Brain's page about their Tapestry integration > >>> > 3. The loom plugin > >>> > > >>> > 2 and 3 don't show up in the search results unless you dig down a few > >>> > pages into the results. It is much more likely they would show up on > >>> > the first page if the links on > >>> > http://tapestry.apache.org/community.html were not marked with > >>> > nofollow. > >>> > > >>> > Another example is what you get when you just search for the word > >>> > Tapestry. The top result is http://tapestry.apache.org. This is > >>> > good, but if you look down the page, you'll see that all the other > >>> > results are all about fabric. This isn't too unexpected.but here is > >>> > basically how Google is thinking. Google recognizes that Apache > >>> > Tapestry is the most important website for someone looking for the > >>> > word Tapestry. Then it looks to see what websites Apache Tapestry > >>> > considers important. All it finds is a bunch of links that Apache > >>> > Tapestry has flagged as "don't trust these, they might be spam". > >>> > > >>> > Anyway, there is some food for thought. There may be some reasons > >>> > that it needs to be this way, but I wanted to make sure we aren't > just > >>> > doing something out of habit because it was beneficial 5 years ago > >>> > when it might be detrimental today. > >>> > > >>> > Mark > >>> > > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Howard M. Lewis Ship > >>> > >>> Creator of Apache Tapestry > >>> > >>> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to > >>> learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! > >>> > >>> (971) 678-5210 > >>> http://howardlewisship.com > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > -- > Howard M. 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