On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > Assuming this works, is there any reason NOT to do it. If there are no > objections I'll see if I can find a way to test it and create a ticket for > the change. > > The only downside I see is spam, but if I understand correctly, the > confluence wiki requires a signed agreement before you can get write access, > so the spam problem should be minimal.
Sounds like a plan ... do you have write access yet? > > Mark > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The wiki itself is probably going to have to stay nofollow, but it might be >> possible to tell the autoexport template ( >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tapestry/tapestry-site/branches/post-5.2-site/autoexport_template.txt) >> to do something like: >> >> $body.replaceAll("nofollow", "") >> >> or maybe >> >> $body.replaceAll("rel=\"nofollow\", "") >> >> That might not be the exact syntax needed, but it looks like replaceAll is >> being used in the template already so I think something along these lines >> has a good chance of working. >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Thanks, those are good points. We're limited in that we use a shared >>> instance of Confluence; those NOFOLLOW attributes are part of >>> Confluence and even if that's configurable, I don't know that we can >>> turn it off. >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > I noticed that the Tapestry website uses nofollow on all the external >>> > links. Perhaps there is a reason for this, but I wanted to point out a >>> > few thoughts about how it might be less than optimal from the >>> > standpoint of spreading information about Tapestry. >>> > >>> > When nofollow was first introduced the search engine optimization >>> > benefit that wasn't passed to nofollow links was available for other >>> > links. So if you put nofollow on all external links it helped you >>> > push more SEO value to your internal pages links that didn't use >>> > nofollow. This meant that adding nofollow to external links could >>> > help your internal pages rank better. This is no longer the case. >>> > The seo value that would normally be assigned to external links is >>> > simply lost when they are marked as nofollow. >>> > >>> > So there is no advantage to http://tapestry.apache.org in marking each >>> > external link with no follow. However, there is a significant >>> > advantage to the Tapestry community by making Tapestry related >>> > resources easier to find in search engines. For example, if you do a >>> > search for: >>> > >>> > Tapestry 5 IDE >>> > >>> > I'd expect to find at least the following pages in the first pages >>> results: >>> > >>> > 1. Tapestry's pages and wiki articles talking about IDE integration and >>> setup. >>> > 2. Jet Brain's page about their Tapestry integration >>> > 3. The loom plugin >>> > >>> > 2 and 3 don't show up in the search results unless you dig down a few >>> > pages into the results. It is much more likely they would show up on >>> > the first page if the links on >>> > http://tapestry.apache.org/community.html were not marked with >>> > nofollow. >>> > >>> > Another example is what you get when you just search for the word >>> > Tapestry. The top result is http://tapestry.apache.org. This is >>> > good, but if you look down the page, you'll see that all the other >>> > results are all about fabric. This isn't too unexpected.but here is >>> > basically how Google is thinking. Google recognizes that Apache >>> > Tapestry is the most important website for someone looking for the >>> > word Tapestry. Then it looks to see what websites Apache Tapestry >>> > considers important. All it finds is a bunch of links that Apache >>> > Tapestry has flagged as "don't trust these, they might be spam". >>> > >>> > Anyway, there is some food for thought. There may be some reasons >>> > that it needs to be this way, but I wanted to make sure we aren't just >>> > doing something out of habit because it was beneficial 5 years ago >>> > when it might be detrimental today. >>> > >>> > Mark >>> > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Howard M. Lewis Ship >>> >>> Creator of Apache Tapestry >>> >>> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to >>> learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! >>> >>> (971) 678-5210 >>> http://howardlewisship.com >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>> >>> >> > -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator of Apache Tapestry The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! (971) 678-5210 http://howardlewisship.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
