Applied .replaceAll("rel=\"nofollow\"", "") in the right places, exported the
site (live already at
https://cwiki.apache.org/TAPESTRY/, main website will pick up the change in an
hour or so) and
committed the change to the autoexport template in svn.
Thanks for the suggestion Mark.
Uli
On 25.04.2011 19:32, Mark wrote:
> No. I can fill out the form for access to the wiki, but I think to try it on
> the live system it will need someone who has commit access && is a
> Confluence administrator. The process is described in the last section of
> http://tapestry.apache.org/confluence-site-setup.html
>
> I was going to setup Confluence on my local machine to try to test it, but
> that may be overkill since it is just a single line change and running it
> locally doesn't really prove it will work on Apache's installation anyway.
>
> Mark
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Assuming this works, is there any reason NOT to do it. If there are no
>>> objections I'll see if I can find a way to test it and create a ticket
>> for
>>> the change.
>>>
>>> The only downside I see is spam, but if I understand correctly, the
>>> confluence wiki requires a signed agreement before you can get write
>> access,
>>> so the spam problem should be minimal.
>>
>> Sounds like a plan ... do you have write access yet?
>>
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The wiki itself is probably going to have to stay nofollow, but it might
>> be
>>>> possible to tell the autoexport template (
>>>>
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tapestry/tapestry-site/branches/post-5.2-site/autoexport_template.txt
>> )
>>>> to do something like:
>>>>
>>>> $body.replaceAll("nofollow", "")
>>>>
>>>> or maybe
>>>>
>>>> $body.replaceAll("rel=\"nofollow\", "")
>>>>
>>>> That might not be the exact syntax needed, but it looks like replaceAll
>> is
>>>> being used in the template already so I think something along these
>> lines
>>>> has a good chance of working.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <[email protected]
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, those are good points. We're limited in that we use a shared
>>>>> instance of Confluence; those NOFOLLOW attributes are part of
>>>>> Confluence and even if that's configurable, I don't know that we can
>>>>> turn it off.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> I noticed that the Tapestry website uses nofollow on all the external
>>>>>> links. Perhaps there is a reason for this, but I wanted to point out
>> a
>>>>>> few thoughts about how it might be less than optimal from the
>>>>>> standpoint of spreading information about Tapestry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When nofollow was first introduced the search engine optimization
>>>>>> benefit that wasn't passed to nofollow links was available for other
>>>>>> links. So if you put nofollow on all external links it helped you
>>>>>> push more SEO value to your internal pages links that didn't use
>>>>>> nofollow. This meant that adding nofollow to external links could
>>>>>> help your internal pages rank better. This is no longer the case.
>>>>>> The seo value that would normally be assigned to external links is
>>>>>> simply lost when they are marked as nofollow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So there is no advantage to http://tapestry.apache.org in marking
>> each
>>>>>> external link with no follow. However, there is a significant
>>>>>> advantage to the Tapestry community by making Tapestry related
>>>>>> resources easier to find in search engines. For example, if you do a
>>>>>> search for:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tapestry 5 IDE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd expect to find at least the following pages in the first pages
>>>>> results:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Tapestry's pages and wiki articles talking about IDE integration
>> and
>>>>> setup.
>>>>>> 2. Jet Brain's page about their Tapestry integration
>>>>>> 3. The loom plugin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2 and 3 don't show up in the search results unless you dig down a few
>>>>>> pages into the results. It is much more likely they would show up on
>>>>>> the first page if the links on
>>>>>> http://tapestry.apache.org/community.html were not marked with
>>>>>> nofollow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another example is what you get when you just search for the word
>>>>>> Tapestry. The top result is http://tapestry.apache.org. This is
>>>>>> good, but if you look down the page, you'll see that all the other
>>>>>> results are all about fabric. This isn't too unexpected.but here is
>>>>>> basically how Google is thinking. Google recognizes that Apache
>>>>>> Tapestry is the most important website for someone looking for the
>>>>>> word Tapestry. Then it looks to see what websites Apache Tapestry
>>>>>> considers important. All it finds is a bunch of links that Apache
>>>>>> Tapestry has flagged as "don't trust these, they might be spam".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, there is some food for thought. There may be some reasons
>>>>>> that it needs to be this way, but I wanted to make sure we aren't
>> just
>>>>>> doing something out of habit because it was beneficial 5 years ago
>>>>>> when it might be detrimental today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Creator of Apache Tapestry
>>>>>
>>>>> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
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>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
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>>
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