I have never been able to get any selenium tapestry tests to run on my Mac at 
all BTW. 
Something has to do with firefiox version or something. 
So, even the proverbial 'patch with tests' isn't possible for me. 
I really don't mind the bleeding edge technology though. 

On Jul 31, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Ulrich Stärk <u...@spielviel.de> wrote:

> One reason I haven't contributed much in terms of code for quite some time is 
> the ever changing
> technology stack Tapestry is built with. We have an increasingly complex 
> stack of bleeding-edge
> tools and technologies that I simply lack the time of keeping up with.
> 
> I have the feeling that this might be a turn-down for other potential 
> contributors as well. I won't
> be against it but don't be surprised about continously declining contributor 
> activity.
> 
> Uli
> 
> 
> On 30.07.2013 23:50, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
>> One thing I've been saying in some of the bugs I've been closing is my
>> desire to get out of the testing side of things. I have no desire to
>> maintain the existing TestNG, EasyMock, and Selenium support code ... you
>> may have noticed that I'm a fan of Spock for unit and mock testing, and Geb
>> for end-to-end integration testing.
>> 
>> I'd love to scrap the existing tapestry-core tests and rewrite for Spock
>> and Geb, but (alas), that is a huge effort.  But I would like to start
>> documenting in release notes and elsewhere that the path forward is to
>> invest in Spock and Geb.
>> 
>> Ok ... as usual, since I've been thinking about this in the background for
>> too long, my invitation to discuss sounds like a mandate ... but,
>> seriously, thoughts on this subject?
> 
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