I'm with Thiago on this one. The abstraction layer is a real benefit as
demonstrated by Dimitri's request to ditch jQuery in favor of vanilla.js.
The answer now simply is to write the required connectors and use
vanilla.js. I know of no other server-side framework offering this kind of
functionality.

Uli

On Mon, May 11, 2015 20:59, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo wrote:
> On Fri, 08 May 2015 17:36:07 -0300, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> so this is very late in the game but I was just wondering how much
>> better
>> tapestries client-side support could be if it just simply standardized
>> on
>> jQuery and gave up on the abstraction layer. Thoughts?
>
> -1 from me. I like the abstraction layer very much. I think the project
> has been burned twice by using a JS framework directly (Dojo in T4,
> Prototype in T5), so, specially with native JavaScript functions covering
> more and more of what we use jQuery and Prototype for (what Dmitri called
> vanilla JS), I think using any framework directly out-of-the-box is a bad
> idea. We already have the abstraction layer anyway, so why not keep it?
> Another downside would be a huge gap in backward compatibility, another
> problem Tapestry already suffered a lot in the past.
>
> --
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer
> http://machina.com.br
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