Hi Stian,

Thank you so much for your reply.
I am really sorry for my late reply.

Thank you for the information you provided. I strongly agree with what you
said.

I am seeing the tutorials and reading the doc. Soon I will start preparing
the proposal and I will keep you in touch.
Thank you once again for your message.

Best regards,
Majdi

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Hi, Majdi, thank you for your intest in GSOC and Apache Taverna!
> Apologies for late reply.
>
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 05:08:55 +0100, Majdi Haouech <majdi.haou...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I have worked with different languages and technologies, to name a few:
> > Java, C, C++, Python, JS, Git, OWL, JavaEE, RabbitMQ, Maven.
> > I am also contributing to a Mozilla open source project which required
> > working with existing code and delivering a full working and completely
> > tested contribution.
>
> This is a strong background!  It's good you have experience with both
> OWL, Python and Java.   As you might have noticed the cwltool reference
> implementation is written in Python, while Taverna is (largely) in Java.
>
>
> > > First, I need to be familiar with the CWL specification in order to be
> able
> > > to convert YAML files to Taverna workflows.
> > > Next, I'll need to do the opposite work by transforming a Taverna
> workflow
> > > into YAML files following the CWL specification as well.
> > > Finally, if there will be enough time, I can contribute to Taverna's
> Tool
> > > Activity by completing the TAVERNA-878 issue.
> > > I understand that the contribution will be to the Taverna Language API
> and
> > > any other remarks are welcome.
>
> Yes, this can be a good way to start.  I am a bit worried about going
> for both CWL import and export at the same time - although trying to
> have some kind of round-trip support would be wonderful!
>
> I think what you are proposing is to keep the translation structural at
> first, that is Taverna can import the CWL workflow and get the
> correct boxes/arrows connected, but would not know
> how to execute the CWL tools (pending TAVERNA-878).
>
> So this could for instance be that you import CWL tools into the dummy
> CWL activity we already have
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-taverna-common-
> activities/tree/cwl-browse/taverna-cwl-activity
> where it would just keep a JSON tree of the CWL Tool configuration
> without knowing how to execute it.  That should make it easier to do a
> round-trip save out again.
>
> TAVERNA-878 could easily also be the most time-consuming part of the
> effort, so it might be good to not risk all on that.  You may have a go
> at doing just simple CWL command line tools (e.g. just arguments and
> stdin/out without files) which should be easier to map to the existing
> Tool activity.
>
>
> Export of Taverna Workflows to CWL can seem challenging because in
> Taverna we have many types of activities which are not supported by
> other CWL engines:
> https://taverna.incubator.apache.org/javadoc/taverna-common-activities/
>
> So again it could be a structural export where the CWL side just has
> "TavernaActivity" and includes the Taverna Activity JSON for opposite
> round-trip, but would not be executable on other CWL engines.
>
> (They should however work on http://view.commonwl.org/)
>
> If you then towards the end want to move beyond structural/skeleton
> export of Taverna workflows into CWL  you can progress to export the
> Taverna's Command Tool activity as CWL command line tools. Again there
> might be features in the Taverna side that don't match exactly to CWL,
> which you can say is not supported.
>
>
> > > I am used to work with different technologies and dealing with
> different
> > > specifications.
>
> Great, yes, that is perhaps also the greatest challenge of this
> particular GSOC project, in that you will be integrating between several
> existing technologies and specifications!
>
>
> > > I am also used to work with existing code and extending it.
> > > Also, I am really motivated for contributing to an Apache project and
> this
> > > opportunity is perfect for me to dive right in with the right support.
>
> Thank you, we very much welcome your effort!
>
> What I think you could do next is to have a go with the different
> technologies, see the tutorials - and then start building a proposal
> (Google Docs?) where you list the background material and
> start listing your task breakdown.
>
> Taverna Language has some (but not much) doc at
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-taverna-language/
> and
> https://taverna.incubator.apache.org/javadoc/taverna-
> language/org/apache/taverna/scufl2/api/package-summary.html
>
> The GOSC proposal is due mid March so there is time to develop it now -
> but it's good if you keep in touch with us at dev@taverna so we can
> review it before the deadline; we want GSOC to be successful as well!
>
>
> --
> Stian Soiland-Reyes
> The University of Manchester
> http://www.esciencelab.org.uk/
> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>
>
> --
> Stian Soiland-Reyes
> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>
>

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