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From: James E. King, III
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 2:10 PM
To: dev@thrift.apache.org
Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Move from legacy asf git to Apache GitBox

Great!

There was a complaint that the CHANGES file has no 0.11.0 data in it from
the user/dev mailing lists.
I will open a Jira ticket for that.  Let's also make sure it's in the "how
to release" directions.

I assume that going forward we are going to continue to require Jira
tickets because that is how
we generate the CHANGES content.  True?  Even for simple changes?  I would
like to make it
earier for the project to accept documentation, website, and build script
changes without needing
the heavy weight of a ticket.

Also see https://github.com/apache/thrift/pull/1531 for example.  It is a
very simple bugfix.  Now on
one hand if we don't have a Jira ticket someone cannot search to find the
"known" issue if they need to.
On the other hand, our Jira open backlog is tremendously large and folks
might have trouble finding
the issue anyway.

So I would like to ask for a discussion about:

1. No longer requiring the "Client" tag for a check-in.
2. No longer needing a Jira thrift ticket for comment-only, doc, website,
or simple build script changes.
3. Now that we can click "rebase and merge" directly on github, but we
don't have the ability to change
the commit message, do we simply reject any PR that requires a Jira ticket
but doesn't have the Jira
ticket ID in the commit message?
4. Do we still want the weight of a Jira ticket for simplistic code
changes?  See this one for an example
of a simple change.  Does it need the full weight of a Jira ticket?
https://github.com/apache/thrift/pull/1531/
I suppose if we don't have a Jira ticket we cannot generate CHANGES that
identify it.  Is the CHANGES
file that useful in its current form?

To these ends I can commit a markdown file that github will display on
every pull request indicating some
guidelines people should follow.  I will start on one now that follows our
current rules of requiring a jira ticket
for everything.

Goal is to get to the point where we can literally have people get their
PRs right the first time, and get
the CI build to pass, and then click "Rebase and Merge".  (We only want to
use rebase and merge to
avoid merge commits).  We want it to be easy to submit changes, easy to
commit the changes, with
sufficient information to generate release notes.

Finally, can we move the thrift website into github and out of Apache CMS
somehow?
This would make it vastly easier to update the website.

- Jim


On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 7:49 AM, Duru Can Celasun <dcela...@apache.org>
wrote:

> INFRA just added a redirect from git.a.o to Github, which works well for
> me. I think this solves the immediate problem.
>
> On Fri, 6 Apr 2018, at 13:41, James E. King, III wrote:
> > The INFRA team will not migrate back.  We should be able to re-release
> > package-specific distributions of a given version to resolve.
> > Or, release 0.12.0 with the correct URLs ASAP.  (I like that idea)
> >
> > Now it would be nice if I could commit pull requests online rather than
> > having to do it from the command line, but the commit buttons are not
> > enabled for me on github.
> > It looks like I can commit PRs however.
> >
> > - Jim
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 1:19 AM, Duru Can Celasun <dcela...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Per THRIFT-4542, it seems there is no workaround INFRA can do to place
> a
> > > mirror or snapshot on git.a.o
> > >
> > > For most languages that are effected by this, a single line change in
> the
> > > dependency manifest might be enough to fix this (there is a PHP
> example in
> > > Jira).
> > > Unfortunately for us, Go uses the full package path with git.a.o in
> import
> > > statements, so there is no easy solution. I'll copy my suggestion from
> Jira
> > > below:
> > >
> > > - Revert GitBox migration and restore git.a.o
> > > - Update all URLs (code & docs) to use Github instead of git.a.o
> > > - Release 0.12 as soon as we can, hopefully sooner rather than later
> > > - Wait a reasonable amount of time so users have a chance to upgrade
> > > - Switch to GitBox once again
> > >
> > > While this is definitely not ideal, I can't see a viable alternative.
> > >
> > > - Can
> > >
> > > On Fri, 6 Apr 2018, at 06:39, James E. King, III wrote:
> > > > Transition to GitBox is complete.  The older asf repository is no
> longer
> > > > accessible.
> > > > Removal of the older git repository has broken a number of language
> > > > packages.
> > > > Folks are complaining about this and we need to do whatever we can
> to fix
> > > > it.
> > > > This was unexpected as part of the migration.
> > > >
> > > > Transition ticket: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16287
> > > >
> > > > All thrift committers should go to https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/
> and
> > > > link your account.
> > > > Write access is not granted immediately.  I don't know how long it
> takes
> > > to
> > > > sync.
> > > > Hopefully in the morning I will have write access.
> > > >
> > > > With this conversion it means our github repository is now the 
> > > > master
> > > > repository for thrift.
> > > > Our documentation for developers needs to be updated to reflect 
> > > > this.
> > > >
> > > > - Jim
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 10:12 AM, Jake Farrell <jfarr...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > result vote never sent for this, closing it out.
> > > > >
> > > > > With 6 positive votes (4 binding, 2 non binding), and zero 
> > > > > negative
> > > votes
> > > > > the vote to move to Apache GitBox for core development passes. 
> > > > > I'll
> > > submit
> > > > > the request and keep everyone updated as INFRA moves us over
> > > > >
> > > > > -Jake
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Binding positive votes:
> > > > > Randy Abernethy
> > > > > Jake Farrell
> > > > > James King
> > > > > Aki Sukegawa
> > > > >
> > > > > Non Binding positive votes:
> > > > > Duru Can Celasun
> > > > > Wang Xin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 8:18 AM, James E. King, III <
> jk...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Apache GitBox provides the Thrift project more control over the
> > > lifecycle
> > > > > > of pull requests and improve the team's ability to get things
> done
> > > in a
> > > > > > timely manner.  The goal is to improve team self-service in
> GitHub
> > > and
> > > > > > integrated CI workflows.  One important improvement for
> committers is
> > > > > that
> > > > > > it allows them to "Rebase and Merge" directly in GitHub,
> assuming the
> > > > > > commit description meets published guidelines.    It also allows
> for
> > > more
> > > > > > control over GitHub features such as issues (note there are no
> plans
> > > to
> > > > > > switch from Apache Hira to GitHub Issues right now), and it
> allows
> > > pull
> > > > > > requests to be assigned to committers and labelled.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I found one discussion link for reference from another Apache
> project
> > > > > > considering conversion back in July 2017:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://apache-nifi.1125220.n5.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Apache-
> > > > > > Gitbox-td18273.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please VOTE:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [ ] +1 Move to Apache GitBox
> > > > > > [ ] +0
> > > > > > [ ] -1 Don't move to  Apache  GitBox because...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Voting will end in 72 hours (excluding the weekend), March 26,
> 2018
> > > at
> > > > > > 9:00:00 AM EDT
> > > > > > https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20180326T09
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Jim King (PMC Member)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> 

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