Understood. However, it seems you are doing little (if not in willful 
opposition) to attract talented contributors. The PMC has replaced 
non-corporate (those unbridled by common thought) with corporate minded 
individuals who boast about contributing but don’t or have contributed in the 
past but have aged out of performing at that level. Now you may argue that the 
PMC is about “management,” but can you really say that with an honest face 
given how little the PMC actually did for all those years (meaning private@ has 
maybe 5 non-VOTE email conversations on it)? Next, when it is publicly known 
that Apache TinkerPop kicks off PMC members who don’t live according to 
“corporate norms” (completely separate from their role at TinkerPop), can you 
honestly say that this inspires potential talent to risk contributing their 
time and energy only to be judge for who they are and how they act in a world 
ruled by this inane concept of ‘canceling’ that even your own PMC members 
(Josh) speak of nonchalantly as if its a natural state of the human condition 
and not some aberration of the fear and despair people feel as competition is 
being killed out of our dying industry by ‘inclusive and diverse' organizations 
like Apache who have forced you to enact mental gymnastics in order to demonize 
your own teammates? Do you honestly believe talent is found in this world you 
have positioned yourself in? Talent lives in the young, fresh faced rebels who 
created our industry in the first place and without the quirky blog posts, the 
thought provoking technological advances, and the triumph of beauty over 
conformity, you will not find talent, only the droning on of the nothingness 
that has becomes this once great project. A project within an organization that 
has gone completely against the doctrines of Apache by being exclusive, 
desirous of a monoculture meant to halt innovation and stagnate progress much 
like what such thinking did to the automobile industry of the olden 
generation... 

Thoughts?,
Marko.

> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:01 PM, Stephen Mallette <spmalle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Marko, I agree with your assertion that the project needs innovation and
> talented contributors to continue to thrive. It needs that as much as it
> needs stability and reliability for the users who depend on it today.
> Obviously, things can't quite be as they were, but perhaps they can become
> something new.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 6:34 PM Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:okramma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys/gals,
>> 
>> Looks like it’s just been Stephen nick-nacking away again as it’s been the
>> last few years. Given the recent big turnover in management, I was hoping
>> to eat my own words and see some performance out of Josh, but unfortunately
>> as given the last 15+ years, 'talk and walk’ (which is even worse than
>> ‘commit and split’). Given that Amazon Neptune is including openCypher in
>> their distribution and with Neo4j just took in a whomping $300+ million in
>> a Series <batman symbol>, seems Apache TinkerPop will be falling to the
>> wayside unless some real innovation happens.
>> 
>> As such, perhaps I could offer a helping hand given my intimate knowledge
>> of the codebase and my master of the theory and history of graph computing
>> that I helped formulate over the last 15 years. With that said, I
>> completely understand if y’all need to hold to the narrative that I’m a
>> “Nazi racist” and thus, unworthy of contributing (after all, the "Nazi
>> code" I wrote over a decade has proven how detrimental ‘racism’ has been to
>> the integrity of the software). However, on the other hand, if y’all have
>> moved past such trivial concepts of ‘good and evil’, perhaps we can get
>> TinkerPop movin' again.
>> 
>> Take care mein comrades,
>> Marko.
>> 
>> http://markorodriguez.com <http://markorodriguez.com/> 
>> <http://markorodriguez.com/ <http://markorodriguez.com/>>

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