Chris,

Unfortunately, some PRs contain many commits and even with good commit
messages, it's may be hard to figure out what exactly all the commits are
trying to accomplish. Therefore, I still think these 2 questions help any
committer/merger/reviewer get a quick handle on the intent of the PR:

At a high-level, what does this PR do?

 >> It creates unicorns when you click on the unicorn button.

What is the best way to verify this PR?

>> Open TP, click on the unicorn button in the top right corner, and watch
the pretty unicorns.

I can't tell you how many times I've had to read through commit messages
and/or code to try to figure out what a PR is trying to accomplish and how
to verify it. I'm just trying to save the reviewer/merger some time..

Jeremy













On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Chris Lemmons <[email protected]> wrote:

>     `What effect should I expect to see from this change?`
>
> This is a perfect question, and one that absolutely needs to be
> answered. But either
>
> a) it is answered already in the commit message; or
> b) the commit message is insufficient and needs to be `git -amend`ed.
>
> I definitely wouldn't want a PR that contained that information only
> in the PR body,
> and there's not a whole lot of value in asking them to re-type it. The
> "copy/paste" thing
> at the top is already a bit of duplication anyway.
>
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:03 AM, Dan Kirkwood <[email protected]> wrote:
> > followup: rather than
> >    `What is the best way to verify this PR? `
> >
> > what about
> >
> >     `What effect should I expect to see from this change?`
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:25 AM, Dan Kirkwood <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> +1 on keeping it short and to the point...
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Jeremy Mitchell <
> [email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Chris, I really wanted the PR template to be less daunting and super
> short
> >>> and to the point. It's intention is to give a super quick summary of
> >>> what's
> >>> included in this PR to help the merger...
> >>>
> >>> Example:
> >>>
> >>> #### What does this PR do? Is there a related Github issue?
> >>>
> >>> "See Issue #1245" or "This PR cascade deletes all delivery service
> regexes
> >>> when a delivery service is deleted"
> >>>
> >>> #### What is the best way to verify this PR? <-- IMO this is really
> >>> important for the merger so I know how to "test" or "verify" the
> >>> functionality.
> >>>
> >>> Hit the DELETE /api/1.3/deliveryservices/:id endpoint and ensure all
> >>> entries in the deliveryservice_regex table are deleted for that
> delivery
> >>> service.
> >>>
> >>> #### Does your PR include any of the following?
> >>>
> >>> - [ ] Tests
> >>> - [ ] Documentation
> >>> - [X] CHANGELOG.md entry
> >>>
> >>> ^^ I wasn't trying to imply that those last things were required. I
> just
> >>> wanted to provide a checklist that might be helpful for the contributer
> >>> and
> >>> the merger. For example, I always for get to look for a CHANGELOG.md
> >>> entry...
> >>>
> >>> Jeremy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:47 PM, Chris Lemmons <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > If there's a relevant GitHub issue, that should be noted in the
> >>> > check-in comment, I think. Same for "what does it do?" I don't
> usually
> >>> > want to spell out steps for someone to verify my stuff because those
> >>> > are the steps that I took to verify it. The PR is so you can see the
> >>> > things I didn't see. And the commit list will make the presence of
> >>> > tests, documentation, and a changelog entry really obvious.
> >>> >
> >>> > Taking yours and reformatting a bit, what if we did something like
> this?
> >>> >
> >>> > ...
> >>> >
> >>> > *Describe your PR:* _(copy/paste from changeset comments is
> >>> encouraged!)_
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > *Quick Checklist:*
> >>> >
> >>> > - [ ] Each commit message tells you everything you need to know about
> >>> > the change. (Squashing can help with this.)
> >>> > - [ ] If applicable, the commit message mentions the appropriate
> issue
> >>> > number.
> >>> > - [ ] This PR does *not* fix a serious security flaw. (Read more:
> >>> > www.apache.org/security )
> >>> > - [ ] Automatic code formatters (like gofmt) have been run.
> >>> >
> >>> > *Tests:*
> >>> >
> >>> > - [ ] Are not necessary.
> >>> > - [ ] Would be helpful, but aren't in this PR.
> >>> > - [ ] Are present, but incomplete.
> >>> > - [ ] Are included.
> >>> >
> >>> > *Doc updates:*
> >>> >
> >>> > - [ ] Are not necessary.
> >>> > - [ ] Would be helpful, but aren't in this PR.
> >>> > - [ ] Are present, but incomplete.
> >>> > - [ ] Are included.
> >>> >
> >>> > *If there's no update to CHANGELOG.md, why not?*
> >>> >
> >>> > *Does this break backward compatibility?*
> >>> >
> >>> > *Is there anyone specific that ought to take a look at this?*
> >>> >
> >>> > ...
> >>> >
> >>> > We want to be friendly to committers, while still getting good
> >>> > information for checking PRs. I could be easily convinced that the
> >>> > "Tests" or "Doc updates" sections in there are too long, but I think
> >>> > it should be clear that a potential committer can offer up some code
> >>> > without hitting 100% on tests, docs, and such.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Jeremy Mitchell <
> [email protected]
> >>> >
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> > > How about something like this for a PR template?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > #### What does this PR do? Is there a relevant Github issue?
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > #### What is the best way to verify this PR?
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > #### Does your PR include any of the following?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > - [ ] Tests
> >>> > > - [ ] Documentation
> >>> > > - [ ] CHANGELOG.md entry
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Jeremy Mitchell <
> >>> [email protected]
> >>> > >
> >>> > > wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> With an issue and/or pr template, we will have 6/6 items checked:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-trafficcontrol/community
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> I actually think PR templates would be quite helpful. As a
> >>> > >> committer/merger, it would be nice to know what problem the PR is
> >>> > solving
> >>> > >> and how to verify the functionality. A PR template could also help
> >>> > >> contributors ensure that their PRs are complete. I.e. does this PR
> >>> > includes
> >>> > >> tests, documentation, etc.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> I'll take a stab at a couple of templates and run them by the
> group.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Jeremy
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 1:10 PM, Chris Lemmons <
> [email protected]>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>> I'm +1 on Issue Templates, for sure. I don't know that PR
> templates
> >>> > >>> are quite as critical, but it might be nice to have a reminder in
> >>> > >>> there about verifying that the changelog is updated if necessary
> and
> >>> > >>> documentation for new features is present. If the PR Template
> >>> > >>> overwrites the default comment that you get from the commit
> body, it
> >>> > >>> might be more annoying than valuable, though.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> I'm also +1 on hiding these particular files in a .github
> directory.
> >>> > >>> Unlike CONTRIBUTING and README, they don't provide all that much
> >>> > >>> benefit for a new person looking for stuff to read.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:17 PM, Durfey, Ryan <
> >>> > [email protected]>
> >>> > >>> wrote:
> >>> > >>> > Always +1 on standardization and consistency
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > I still want to circle back and setup project/kanbans for
> >>> organizing
> >>> > >>> tickets in Github.
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > Ryan Durfey    M | 303-524-5099
> >>> > >>> > CDN Support (24x7): 866-405-2993 or [email protected]
> >>> <mailto:
> >>> > >>> [email protected]>
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > From: Dewayne Richardson <[email protected]>
> >>> > >>> > Reply-To: "[email protected]" <
> >>> > >>> [email protected]>
> >>> > >>> > Date: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 11:15 AM
> >>> > >>> > To: "[email protected]" <
> >>> > >>> [email protected]>
> >>> > >>> > Subject: Github PR/Issues Format Templates
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > I was working through the go-swagger repo and found a bug.  I
> >>> > submitted
> >>> > >>> a
> >>> > >>> > new issue and found this interesting approach I think the TC
> >>> github
> >>> > >>> should
> >>> > >>> > adopt, "Issue and PR Templates".  I think the main value here
> is
> >>> > >>> > consistency in our PRs/Issues and user friendly prompts to say
> >>> "these
> >>> > >>> are
> >>> > >>> > the data points we need to help you solve your issue".
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > Working example:
> >>> > >>> > https://github.com/go-swagger/go-swagger/issues/new
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > Github Doc on how to implement templates:
> >>> > >>> > https://github.com/blog/2111-issue-and-pull-request-templates
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > If we think it's a good idea, then I'll respond with some
> examples
> >>> > for
> >>> > >>> > Issues and PR's that we can discuss.
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > -Dew
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>

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