Hi Nir and all,

Do you know when will the full GO version of Traffic Ops be ready in the master 
branch? The reason I raise this question is that we are starting to implement 
this feature, and if some of the APIs involving this feature are still in Perl 
and will not be ported to GO very soon, we are planning implement them in the 
Perl. For other APIs, we will implement them in GO. Is there any objection to 
this plan?
 
Thanks,
John

 
On 2018/4/10, 4:22 PM, "Zhilin Huang (zhilhuan)" <[email protected]> wrote:

    To be clear, "immutable" here means the IP could not be removed, but allow 
modification.
    
    And streaming "priority" is better be Delivery Service based than server 
based.
    
    Thanks,
    Zhilin
    
    
    On 10/04/2018, 4:12 PM, "Zhilin Huang (zhilhuan)" <[email protected]> 
wrote:
    
        Hey Nir,
        
        Thanks a lot for your comments. Please see my replies inline.
        
        On 10/04/2018, 3:14 AM, "Nir Sopher" <[email protected]> wrote:
        
             Hey Zhilin,
            
            Regarding the ports configuration. Even though I believe modeling 
will be
            cleaner if the port and IP are set together, you are probably 
correct - it
            is reasonable to consider the Port per IP flexibility as a future 
extension
            and avoid it for now.
            Still, I would suggest to at-least module the cr-config with the 
Port
            specified per IP (delivery-unit). It is more flexible as well as 
simplify
            the router and monitor code.
        ZH> I understand your consideration about the flexibility. But I still 
think port is a server lever configuration, do not see the needs of multiple 
ports in the near future. Anyway, if we want to add port configured together 
with IP, it is easy to add a new field into the json of RESTful API or 
cr-config, since adding new field is easy to be backward compatible. So I would 
like to leave this change to future when there is use case required.
            
            
            Regarding the crud of the server configuration, I believe the API 
should
            change, but with backward compatibility.
            Maybe we should have
            (GET/POST/PUT/DELETE)  /api/1.2/servers/{:svrId}/interfaces
            And
            (GET/POST/PUT/DELETE)  /api/1.2/servers/{:svrId}/
            interfaces/{:ifId}/delivery-units
        ZH> I went thru those APIs again, and agree with your points. The 
design doc has been updated to reflect this change in section 3.1.1.3 and 
3.1.1.4. A little different than your suggestion is I used "ips" instead of 
"delivery-units" to allow manipulation of management IP and ILO IP as well.
            
            These APIs will allow us to manipulate all interfaces and all IPs
            (delivery-units). Note that as I see it, there is no special 
"primary" IP
            (but IPs has priorities).
        ZH> I think there must be a so called "default" streaming IP bind with 
a server until server deleted. A server with no streaming is useless. That's 
how I understand the "primary" IP, which is immutable with a server. A 
"secondary" streaming IP could be add and removed afterwards.
        For the streaming IP priority, I think it is out of the scope of this 
feature, we could add that in some future features. The concept streaming 
"priority" itself could be co-existing with the "primary/secondary" concept, in 
different dimension. The priority is a streaming load balance concept. And any 
streaming IP, no matter primary or secondary, could assign a higher priority 
than others.
            
            The old /api/1.2/servers/{:svrId} API can be backward compatible. 
We need
            to think it through but just an example:
        ZH> Agree, I would like the old APIs will not see the "secondary" IPs 
and interfaces. No behavior change.
            
               - Server "GET" will return the IP of the server's delivery unit 
with the
               lowest ID
               - Server "PUT" will allow empty IP, but if IP is set, it verify 
there is
               exactly 1 IP record for the server, and work against it. O.w. 
fails.
            
            Another option can be to have a global param that enables multiple 
IPs per
            server.  When enabled, API changes - IP is removed from the server 
API.
            
            Nir
            
            
            
            On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 9:18 AM, Zhilin Huang (zhilhuan) 
<[email protected]>
            wrote:
            
            > Hi Jifeng,
            >
            > I do not think we need to change the APIs. Current CRUD 
/api/1.2/servers
            > will configure the primary IP and interface.
            >
            > I do not think we want to change this due to:
            > 1) backward compatibility
            > 2) there should always be a default (primary) IP and interface 
configured
            > when creating a server. It is not reasonable a server created 
with no
            > IP/Interface configured. So current CRUD /api/1.2/servers APIs 
are good
            > enough.
            > 3) only people want multiple IPs and interfaces need to call new 
APIs or
            > new API formats.
            >
            > So I think we can change the data/DB inside, but keep the APIs not
            > affected at least.
            >
            > Thanks,
            > Zhilin
            >
            >
            > On 05/04/2018, 9:06 AM, "Jifeng Yang (jifyang)" 
<[email protected]>
            > wrote:
            >
            >     Due to this change, the Traffic Ops APIs may also need change:
            >
            >     (GET/POST/PUT/DELETE)  /api/1.2/servers/{:svrId}/2ndintfs
            >         Need change
            >         Suggestion: /api/1.2/servers/{:svrId}/interfaces
            >
            >     (GET/POST/PUT/DELETE)  /api/1.2/servers/{:svrId}/2ndips
            >         Don't need change.
            >
            >     Thanks,
            >     Jifeng
            >
            >     On 04/04/2018, 11:56, "Zhilin Huang (zhilhuan)" 
<[email protected]>
            > wrote:
            >
            >         Updated the DB schema in section 3.1.1.4
            >
            >         Thanks,
            >         Zhilin
            >
            >
            >         On 04/04/2018, 11:02 AM, "Zhilin Huang (zhilhuan)" <
            > [email protected]> wrote:
            >
            >             Good points. I am happy to make this change in the 
design doc.
            >
            >             Thanks,
            >             Zhilin
            >
            >
            >             On 03/04/2018, 8:17 PM, "Eric Friedrich (efriedri)" <
            > [email protected]> wrote:
            >
            >                 I would prefer a consistent way to store all 
interface and
            > IP address information. Its good database design practice to 
store similar
            > information in similar tables (i.e. all IP info in 1 table) 
rather than
            > keep some IPs in the server table and some IPs in another table.
            >
            >                 I also think this refactoring will give us greater
            > flexibility for more changes in the future. Outside of this 
particular use
            > case, we might have additional features like sharing edges between
            > public/private networks or having multiple (equal priority) 
streaming
            > interfaces on a cache.
            >
            >                 These future features would be easier if the 
interface
            > data and IP data is all organized into separate tables.
            >
            >                 I’d also like to see the delivery service to IP 
mapping be
            > a many to many mapping in the DB. For this particular feature we 
will only
            > assign a single IP (and we can restrict that in the API if we 
want), but I
            > am near certain that in the future we would like the ability to 
assign a DS
            > to multiple IPs on the same cache.
            >
            >
            >                 —Eric
            >
            >
            >
            >                 > On Apr 3, 2018, at 2:42 AM, Zhilin Huang 
(zhilhuan) <
            > [email protected]> wrote:
            >                 >
            >                 > Hi Mark,
            >                 >
            >                 > Thanks for your comments. Please check my reply 
in
            > another thread:
            >                 >
            >                 > If we all agreed to use unified tables for all 
IPs
            > and/or interfaces: primary, management, secondary, then there 
need to be
            > two tables: IP and interface.
            >                 > And in the server table, we need to replace the 
original
            > "interface_xxx", "ip_xxx", "ip6_xxx" fields with a 
"primary_ip_id" field.
            > And do similar things to management IP.
            >                 >
            >                 > Thanks,
            >                 > Zhilin
            >                 >
            >                 >
            >                 > On 03/04/2018, 7:08 AM, "Mark Torluemke" <
            > [email protected]> wrote:
            >                 >
            >                 >    I would support an 'interfaces' table 
(adding some
            > sort of a 'type' column)
            >                 >    that would include moving the management and 
lights
            > out management
            >                 >    interfaces to that table as well.
            >                 >
            >                 >    Cheers,
            >                 >    Mark
            >                 >
            >                 >    On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Nir Sopher <
            > [email protected]> wrote:
            >                 >
            >                 >> Hi Zhilin,
            >                 >>
            >                 >> I took a quick look into the spec. Hope to 
have the
            > opportunity to dive
            >                 >> deeper into it soon so we can further discuss 
it.
            >                 >>
            >                 >> For now I have a 2 questions.
            >                 >> In the spec, you refer to "secondary 
interfaces", and
            > you have a list of
            >                 >> secondary interfaces added.
            >                 >> IIUC the secondary interfaces are used as long 
as they
            > are available, and
            >                 >> when down, you move to the primary interface.
            >                 >>
            >                 >> Why not, instead of holding a secondary 
interfaces
            > table, move all
            >                 >> interfaces to a separate table? Primary and 
secondary.
            >                 >> For each interface you can hold:
            >                 >>
            >                 >>   - Server id
            >                 >>   - name (e.g. eth0)
            >                 >>   - IPv6
            >                 >>   - IPv4
            >                 >>   - Priority (Integer as flexible as you wish: 
e.g. "1"
            > for "secondary",
            >                 >>   "2" for "primary" in your example,)
            >                 >>
            >                 >>
            >                 >> Additionally, it is not clear to me what 
happens if one
            > of the interfaces
            >                 >> fails?
            >                 >> Does every interface has a unique DNS name? If 
an
            > interface fails, are
            >                 >> redirects
            >                 >> sent only to the available (secondary) 
interfaces?
            >                 >>
            >                 >> Thanks,
            >                 >> Nir
            >                 >>
            >                 >>
            >                 >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Zhilin Huang
            > (zhilhuan) <
            >                 >> [email protected]
            >                 >>> wrote:
            >                 >>
            >                 >>> Hi Guys,
            >                 >>>
            >                 >>> This was originally posted in another 
discussion.
            > Resend this in a
            >                 >>> standalone topic to catch more awareness. The 
link for
            > the design doc:
            >                 >>>
            > 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vgq-pGNoLLYf7Y3cu5hWu67TUKpN5hucrp
            >                 >>> -ZS9nSsd4/edit?usp=sharing
            >                 >>>
            >                 >>>
            >                 >>> Short summary for the feature design:
            >                 >>> ---
            >                 >>> There is feature request from market to add 
secondary
            > IPs support on edge
            >                 >>> cache servers, and the functionality to 
assign a
            > delivery service to a
            >                 >>> secondary IP of an edge cache.
            >                 >>>
            >                 >>> This feature requires Traffic Ops 
implementation to
            > support secondary IP
            >                 >>> configuration for edge cache, and delivery 
service
            > assignment to
            >                 >> secondary
            >                 >>> IP.
            >                 >>>
            >                 >>> Traffic Monitor should also monitor 
connectivity of
            > secondary IPs
            >                 >>> configured. And Traffic Router needs support 
to
            > resolve streamer FQDN to
            >                 >>> secondary IP assigned in a delivery service.
            >                 >>>
            >                 >>> Traffic Server should record the IP serving 
client
            > request. And should
            >                 >>> reject request to an unassigned IP for a 
delivery
            > service.
            >                 >>>
            >                 >>> This design has taken compatibility into
            > consideration: if no secondary
            >                 >> IP
            >                 >>> configured, or some parts of the system has 
not been
            > upgraded to the
            >                 >>> version supports this feature, the traffic 
will be
            > served by primary IPs
            >                 >> as
            >                 >>> before.
            >                 >>> ---
            >                 >>>
            >                 >>> Much appreciated and welcome to any comments. 
If no
            > major objections, we
            >                 >>> planned to start coding this week.
            >                 >>>
            >                 >>> Thanks,
            >                 >>> Zhilin
            >                 >>>
            >                 >>>
            >                 >>
            >                 >
            >                 >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            
        
        
    
    

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