Hi,

that helps. I assumed as much (hence we put it in the Proposal) but as you
can see it's already been brought up again on the mailing list so I think
it's worth it to get a link to a thread with the current stance and put it
in a FAQ.

Cheers,
Lars

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:30 AM Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Lars,
>
> > On Feb 23, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Lars Francke <lars.fran...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>> I believe it'd be good to talk with Legal and/or Trademark early on to
> >> get
> >>> an opinion on a few things and then later put a prominent note on that
> on
> >>> our website.
> >>
> >> It reasonably straight forward I think, as long as 3rd parties respect
> the
> >> Apache license, brand and it’s trademarks all is good. For instance [2]
> >>
> >> There may need to be a discussion around how do we license non code
> stuff
> >> as the ALv2 was only written with software in mind. We also need to take
> >> care including stuff that under other licenses, for instance a lot of
> >> content is under creative common licenses and that may or may not be
> >> compatible with the apache license. [1]
> >>
> >
> > Good points. And I agree, the current rules probably cover most of it
> but I
> > believe it doesn't hurt to be proactive here and just talk about the
> issues
> > we foresee. And you raised one of them.
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> How exactly can we do that and especially how can we market it and
> refer
> >> to it?
> >>
> >> As long as there’s no confusion with users that the compony is
> >> representing the ASF or the ASF project in question, again all is good.
> [3]
> >>
> >>> Someone else talked about "certifications" in the VOTE thread. I put
> them
> >>> as "out of scope" in the Proposal but that doesn't mean it can't
> change.
> >>
> >> This has come up a couple of of time at the board level and from memory
> >> it's been something the ASF don’t want to  do, that doesn’t mean we
> can’t
> >> bring it up again.
> >>
> >
> > I assumed as much, hence I left it out in the proposal but since it was
> > raised during VOTE I assume it'll come up again. So I'd raise this as
> well.
>
> My understanding is the same as Justin's. The board is definitely not
> interested in helping companies create "certified" stamps of approval for
> training/courses.
>
> That said, I do not see anything wrong with the training project creating
> as part of its offerings things to evaluate attendees' understanding of the
> materials. In other words, tests.
>
> I don't recall tests being discussed here.
>
> Craig
> >
> > I see all of his as content for a FAQ page on our website.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Lars
> >
> >
> >> Thanks,
> >> Justin
> >>
> >> 1. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#cc-sa <
> https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#cc-sa>
> >> 2. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#books <
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#books>
> >> 3. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#notes <
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#notes>
> Craig L Russell
> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
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> http://db.apache.org/jdo>
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