If there is consensus among the majority of those contributors weighing in
on the matter of dropping mailing list stats I will remove those. Otherwise
I will submit the report as is.
The rationale behind this is that while some within the community (and/or
outside, like IPMC and ASF Board Members) may not be interested in these
numbers, the report is going to be a public record.
IMO, the (reporting) responsibility of the project goes beyond the
requirements of the IPMC. This record will be made available to all parties
in order for them to see how the project is doing, and how its latest
report compares to a(ny) previous reporting period. It may be a factor for
(potential) adopters{[1] and (potential) contributors in their decision
whether to use and/or contribute to the works of the project.
As always, parties not interested in such (detailed) information can
disregard.
Another factor is that, while the Whimsy tool provides some data (limited)
about mailing lists stats, these Whimsy stats are (a) only visible to
parties with privileges (a controlled circulation) and (b) only provide a
moment in time snapshot. IMO, there is nothing in there that should be
regarded as sensitive information and may not be seen by non-privileged
contributors and others.
[1] adopter: any party that is using the works of the project in its
(regular) (business) operations.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
*Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
*Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)
since 2008*
Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:57 AM Justin Mclean <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would drop the mailing statistics as there is no commentary telling us
> what they mean. The number while interesting to some don’t mean much to
> anyone outside the project without some context.
>
> > - private@: 14, comprising of:
> > - Mentors:, 6 of 6,
> > - PPMC Members being ASF Members: 1 of 3,
> > - Other PPMC Members: 2 of 6
>
> If this show that only 1/2 your PPMC is signed up to the mailing list then
> I suggest you encourage all PPMC members to sign up.
>
> This is nicely displayed in Whimsy btw [1] which shows 6 of the PPMC not
> signed up and one extra person signup to the private list who should not
> be, I suggest they be removed as only PPMC (and ASF) members can be signed
> up to your private list.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/tuweni
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